[ SECRET POST #291 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #291 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Posting for Shahni due to lack of computer and early due to class.

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 105 secrets from Secret Submission Post #042.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom, [ 1 ] repeat.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, October 24th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[hagaren22.livejournal.com]

Haha, at the risk of my audience not actually caring (most often the truth, yeah >.>), my candid opinion:

The problem with your "nigger" comparison is that white people CAN'T use that word, online or in real life, without coming across as instantly racist because of the oppressive and derogatory history behind the Caucasian use of the word. And there's a very similar history behind the use of the word "faggot" by heterosexuals in reference to homosexuals.

The INTENDED and most prevalent connotation of that word, in my personal experience, is hurtfully homophobic, regardless of what the speaker actually means, and so I really, completely honestly can't understand why someone can just not expect a lash-back when using it. -___-"

[rarebirds]

The communities that I have seen the words "nigger" and "faggot" used the most are the same communities where it is not possible for one to know if the person using the word is black, white, gay or straight. Without this to base the intention of the word on, the word loses a lot of it's strength. Over time it starts getting batted around and loses more and more meaning. I won't call 4chan or anything related the pinnacle of human society, but it's certainly got more hold over the internet than most people realise.

Yes, in real life, I would be wary of using these words unless certain of my audience's opinion, but when words I 'should' find insulting are used against me, it's up to me how much power I give them. On the internet, however, I would only expect a lash-back if I was looking for one. I would be amazed if I used the term 'faggot' in a quakenet IRC room and was suddenly lynched for my homophobia. It's perhaps naive to paint forums like livejournal, where anonymous is not the major communication method, and is a somewhat closed off corner of the internet, with the same brush, but I can see why people would make that mistake (considering how the turnover on 4chan, something awful and similar sites has only increased over the years.)

[hagaren22.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I agree that context is everything. But some people just can't distinguish the appropriateness of their language for the audience, and then get personally affronted when someone is hurt. And people DO have a right to be hurt by typically derogatory words, online or offline. :P

Though 4chan and somethingawful are probably the exceptions to every PC rule ever. I think those sites come with an intuitively understood disclaimer that everything is in itself already insulting to someone's sensibilities...I don't view LJ that way though, and I've seen these words thrown around LJ quite a bit. Again, context is everything. @_@

[rarebirds]

And people DO have a right to be hurt by typically derogatory words, online or offline. Yes, they do, but the problem with being insulted by anything online is, as previously stated, the person likely will not care, or will find your hurt amusing. Which is why it's easier to not give them the time/energy. One of my favourite analogies for arguments on the internet is that it's like giving a speech on racial equality to monkeys - you'll just end up frustrated and covered in shit. Because monkeys don't care, and monkeys throw shit, and it's probably your fault for thinking they'll do anything different.

I agree with you, context is everything, but 4chan and somethingawful are spreading. I'm not sure how ready the rest of the internet are for them, but they're coming anyway.

[hagaren22.livejournal.com]

BTW I actually have no idea about that kinkmeme business nor what your place in it (just noticed that in the comments below). This isn't personal at all, just me expressing an opinion.