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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-29 06:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #2523 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2523 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Carnivale]


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[Madame LaLaurie from American Horror Story: Coven]


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[David Duchovny/The X-Files]


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[The Lorax]


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09. [SPOILERS for Blacklist]



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10. [WARNING for rape?]



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11. [SPOILERS for Once Upon a Time]
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12. [WARNING for incest]

[The Raven Cycle]


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[personal profile] cat63 2013-11-30 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
"That's about it for specific icky stuff between the two of them"

You forgot the part where he dated (and possibly, although it's never explicitly stated, slept with) the amnesiac version of her after she fell over the town line and defaulted to her Storybrooke persona. That version of her was attracted by his dark side and got off seeing him beat people up. The normal Belle would have been horrified by that.

He apparently believed at the time that there was no cure and was settling for any version of Belle he could get, but I'm not sure that speaks too well of him either, if he'll take a person with the same face but completely different personality in lieu of the woman he supposedly loves.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-30 10:26 am (UTC)(link)
I don't blame Rumple for dating "Lacey" when Belle lost her memories... I didn't see it as any different than "Mary Margaret" falling in love with "David." Granted, Snow and Charming's personalities weren't as radically altered as Belle's, but they fell in love with each other anyway because they still were, deep down, themselves.

One could make the argument that "Lacey" was a complete departure from Belle's morals and personality, but I don't know, I saw the "Lacey" persona as more of Belle's own attraction to danger amplified. For all that Belle pushes Rumple towards "good," she obviously likes his darker side, if only a little. She laughs at his off-color jokes, and she was never ignorant to how brutal he could be... She was the one who cleaned the blood off of his clothes, after all.

Guh, sorry, I didn't mean to rant so much. I just personally wasn't bothered by the "Lacey" storyline because I think that Rumple still saw Belle underneath the new persona, and when he realized that a part of her still loved him, he did whatever he could to keep it.
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[personal profile] cat63 2013-11-30 10:45 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't see it as any different than "Mary Margaret" falling in love with "David."

The difference, IMO, is that both "Mary Margaret" and "David" were in the same amnesiac condition - neither of them knew any better at that time, so no blame attaches (except for going behind "David's wife's back).

Rumple does know better, so I'd say the two situations aren't completely analogous. I'm not saying it was as bad as what Regina did to Graham by any means, but I think it was morally dubious all the same.

You're likely rtight about the "Lacey" persona being a part of Belle (where else would it come from, after all?), but it's not a part she'd be proud of or want to see encouraged, I think.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-30 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Well Rumple had flat-out told her numerous times that he knew her as Belle, so he wasn't misleading her. She just didn't care.

He was also trying to get her to love him again because he believed that's how the 'curse' could be broken.
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[personal profile] cat63 2013-11-30 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Well Rumple had flat-out told her numerous times that he knew her as Belle, so he wasn't misleading her. She just didn't care.

That's quite true, but she didn't care because she was in an altered mental state - not quite like being on mind-altering drugs, perhaps, but having the same effect of doing things she wouldn't do in her usual state of mind.

I don't blame him for trying to dig Belle out of the Lacey persona you understand, nor am I actually against the pairing - I just think there are issues in there that may come back to bite later (or would if they were acknowledged by the writers).