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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-30 03:25 pm

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⌈ Secret Post #2524 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-30 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
To drift so far out of fandom you don't want to leave evidence. I swear I proofread this.
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[personal profile] silverr 2013-11-30 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't get this either.

(Not exactly the same, but someone I wrote Yuletide for a few years ago deleted their Ao3 account, and now every time I see that assignment (which is listed as "Yuletide 2010 for — None — ") it makes me a little bit sad.)

The only explanation that comes to mind is that they had a religious conversion, and in the spirit of St Augustine and Cat Stevens, wanted to put their "old life" entirely behind them.

Edited 2013-11-30 20:58 (UTC)

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-01 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
WTF.
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[personal profile] silverr 2013-12-01 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
No? You can't see it possible that someone who previously wrote/read slash (or yuri) or heck even just vanilla prons going all "Get thee behind me, Satan!" if they converted to a very fundamentalist religion?

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-30 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
What happens to orphan accounts, anyway? Are they up there for a certain period of time before they're pulled, or are they permanent?

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-30 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe they're permanent -- it's a way to leave your fic and remove yourself. And don't get me wrong, I'm grateful the people are leaving their fics, some of which are quite good! I'm just really puzzled about people making such a sharp turnaround so fast.

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-30 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, thanks!
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-11-30 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
It always makes me sad to see orphan_account works. :/ But I must say, if I were ashamed of some work of mine (which happened quite a few times), I would have deleted the work no matter what. Because I'm not ashamed of the fact that I wrote it so much as its very existence makes me embarrassed in an odd second-hand-embarrassment way.
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[personal profile] silverau 2013-11-30 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahaha I feel the same way! I get embarrassed to look at some of my old fic even if it's never been posted anywhere and no one but me knows it exists or that I wrote it. I leave up my old embarrassing stuff, though; I know some people still like it even though I don't.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-11-30 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just glad that orphan accounts allow people to leave their fic up even if they want to erase the connection to themselves. I have mourned so many wonderful fics that got taken down and wiped from existence. Which I respect due to the author's privacy and stuff, but it still makes me so sad.

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(Anonymous) 2013-11-30 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes, definitely, it's a wonderful innovation and one I'm very grateful for.

I'm just... curious, about what happened in two weeks that someone went from updating a fic to disowning it.
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[personal profile] silverr 2013-12-01 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
That does seem very sudden.

[personal profile] ex_mek82 2013-11-30 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, I can understand wanting to delete/get rid of works you no longer like/care for/want to be associated with (I do it all the time myself, lmao). And maybe for some people, getting rid of stuff after a bad fandom experience (an example off the top of my head) probably helps them move on/cope with something?

Either way, I don't blame them for doing so with whatever reason they may have had.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-30 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhm, so, I did this before. And in my case, it wasn't because I didn't want to leave evidence of being involved in fandom, but because my attempt to get back into fandom backfired and the rather bad stats just weren't good for my mental health (still didn't want to delete the fics because a couple of people had bookmarked them and because I know how much it can suck if you open a link to re-read something only to find out it's gone...).

(Anonymous) 2013-11-30 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I orphan the fills I write for kink memes because I don't want to deal with the drama if someone gets a hair up their ass over non-con or maledom/femsub and me being a "bad feminist."

(Anonymous) 2013-12-01 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, heh, I see. I use sockpuppets for that.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-30 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I did this when I left fandom under a cetain name. No drama, no fuss, just orphaned my account. I deleted the story I really didn't want there anymore, left another up, and generally just left.

(Anonymous) 2013-11-30 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
when I started becoming a BNF I orphaned my work because I don't want to be a BNF

(Anonymous) 2013-12-01 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I've Orphaned accounts. I've left about 5 of them, all explicit, self indulgent smut.

What happens is: I don't normally write but suddenly inspiration. I make a generic anon account. I post my fic, complete or not. I keep doing this until the drive to write ends. I wait a few months, if the drive doesn't come back I Orphan that account.

Basically I do not want to be traced back to the fics at all, this is just tying up loose ends.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-01 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
When I got fed up with AO3, I deleted my fics. I could never have orphaned them. However bad or good they are, they're part of me. I find it such an odd thing to do, to disown something you wrote. I mean, I can see where someone might choose to do it, I just can't relate.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-01 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
Quick question: If I were to delete my AO3 fics (because I'm like you regarding the reasons I could never abandon them) would AO3 send me a copy of the fics? Or should I make sure to download a copy first?

(There are a couple of fics whose original word docs were recently lost.)

And, uh, do the copies (if they are sent to you) have the original posting date on them?

[personal profile] ex_mrs260625 2013-12-01 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
I recently deleted something from AO3, and a copy was sent to me when I did so. I didn't keep it, so I can't say whether the original posting date was on it.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-01 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
Um, well, that's actually why I do it. To disown myself from it. It's good you have that kind of confidence in your creative works but the minute I finish something I'm filled with shame and hatred for it.

Secret 9 - Fanfiction writers, Archive of Our Own (fanfiction archive), orphaned accounts

[personal profile] transcriptanon 2014-01-05 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
[Picture is a cropped screen-capture of an "Archive Of Our Own" fanfiction page, which only says "by orphan_account, 16 Nov 2013"]

I always wonder what happened when I see an orphan account on a recently active story (especially an incomplete one, since I guess it could be used to anonymize something kinky). I always thought it took longer to drift so far out of fandom you don't want to leave evidence. Was the author driven away from the fandom? Did they suddenly become so mortified by these particular stories that they wanted to renounce them? Did they get a real life publishing contract? What happened?

(The fandom distribution is uneven enough that I guess it's probably really some new subculture thing, orphaning an account to announce you've left the fandom, which seems really silly because what if you change your mind? But I still wonder.)