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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-30 03:25 pm

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⌈ Secret Post #2524 ⌋

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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-11-30 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck yes. To all of this. Just on principle, in any fandom, I tend to side-eye the "oh, I wasn't REALLY in love with her" trope really hard because it's so fucking childish. For one: really? You do realize that it's possible to love more than one person? And it's possible to love one person, love them genuinely, and then fall in love with someone else after that person dies? Like, you know this, right? For another: it's just not cool. The whole "omg yes I had all these relationships BUT I WAS IN LOVE WITH YOU THE WHOLE TIME" thing makes me go okay, so, you were actually obsessed with this other guy during all your past relationships? So, why exactly am I supposed to believe you're srs bsns in love THIS time any more than you were the last five times you said you were in love with other people? That's not romantic. It's usually pathetic for anyone over 25.

I dunno. I may be oversensitive to this because it used to occur so damn frequently in oldschool Kirk/Spock from Star Trek TOS -- people making a big point of saying "oh noes Kirk totally did NOT love Edith Keeler. And he totally did not even love Miramee even though he had amnesia at the time. Also, he wasn't actually even friends with Gary Mitchell, even though that pairing is non-canon." And other bullshit.

[personal profile] agnes_bean 2013-12-01 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
+1

I think childish/immature is the right way to describe why this trope rubs me so wrong in general. Especially because if you want to achieve the same "my OTP is the best, most special love" effect, IMO it's a lot more realistic (and less creepy of the character) for them to be like, "Yes, I loved X, but my love for you is different/stronger/more full of lust/more likely to last the rest of my life/whatever else applies." Because every love IS different, and, depending on the situation a lot of shippers will probably agree that the OTP love is the most soul-matey or whatever else. And that's fine. That happens. People find the one person they love THE MOST, or want to spend their life with for whatever other reason. But that doesn't mean all their past loves are invalid.