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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-01 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2525 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2525 ⌋

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dreemyweird: (austere)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-12-01 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I. It's really big (because of white handsome dudes+crime procedural+quality work+based on a classic combo).

II. It is a modern work set in modern times, which allows a wide range of people to associate themselves with the characters and give the characters the kind of quirks they themselves are familiar with. Today (in comparison to, say, the nineteenth century), there are certain Nonconformist trends dominating a major part of the young Western generation; it is considered very cool to be eccentric, unusual, even slightly "mentally unstable". Sure, it is something that has been familiar to the mankind for many centuries (see Byronism, romanticism, et c.), but it is usually harder for teenagers in any given time period to identify or strongly like characters from other time periods (because this requires knowledge of history and literary traditions, and a lot of mental adjustments); so, the more modern a particular work of fiction, the better the current "quirky" generation can relate to the characters. Add here Sherlock's "sociopathy" (hell knows where this idea came from, he's not a sociopath) and other eccentricities, his uniqueness, his genius, the unusual environment, all the action-adventure stuff (makes the series easier and more fun to watch), and the effects of the media globalization (which give millions the opportunity to watch and discuss the show), and voila. Tons of Byronesque teens fetishizing a Byronesque character.

III. Good shipping potential. Two BFFs with (possible) strong romantic subtext, badass, attractive; hence, good shipping potential; hence, strong feelings on the part of the fans. Strong feelings tend to make people inadequate.

IV. As I already wrote in II, this show is really good for teenagers. And you know the way teenagers are.
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[personal profile] erinptah 2013-12-01 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Re: II: This Sherlock refers to himself as "a high-functioning sociopath" in the first episode. From there you get some viewers taking it at face value (and not as, say, Sherlock being snarky or confused about how psychology works), and others going "hmm, probably not true in canon...but wouldn't it be interesting to write about?"
dreemyweird: (austere)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-12-01 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, I totally forgot about that. (sighs) Thanks for reminding me.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-01 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought that, like, an absolutely central aspect of that sociopath line is that it was a complete whopping lie/attempt to delude himself/attempt to protect himself, and that Moriarty proved that it was a complete whopping lie in the first season finale? Like, wasn't that the point of the line?
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[personal profile] funyarinpainahat 2013-12-02 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
The funny thing is, 99% of the plot of the last episode flat-out wouldn't have happened if Sherlock was a sociopath. Ditto for the Baskerville ep. Double ditto for the episode Irene was in. The line just came off as a defense mechanism, as Sherlock labeling himself to excuse his own behavior and not have to deal with the repercussions.

The psychology of the show is interesting. The psychology in the fandom is wrong.

Edited (Disgruntled psych major wanted to talk more) 2013-12-02 00:23 (UTC)
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-12-02 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I think that was the point - that him being a sociopath was totally untrue, and Sherlock was lying either to himself or to other people when he said that - but fans don't seem to have the same opinion.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-03 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder why fandom has gleefully piled onto the "sociopath" line, but I haven't seen too much about John's offhand comment to Lestrade that Sherlock has Aspergers, which seems a lot closer to possible considering Sherlock's personality.