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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-03 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2527 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2527 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-04 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
You're lumping several scenarios together, though.

We have the all-out attack by things which seem intent on destroying the city anyway, as in Avengers. Your point is completely correct.

On the other hand, suppose we have a bad guy with superpowers robbing banks. He doesn't want to destroy the city; he wants to rob banks. When the good guys with superpowers show up to apprehend him, the ensuing fight destroys half the city. This is where some nitpicking becomes more appropriate.
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2013-12-04 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
The problem there is the state can't lose a monopoly on force.

As trite and hated as the phrase is, 'we don't negotiate with terrorists' has serious long term value.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-04 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
DA

and I'd hope to hell that if the state destroyed half a city to stop a terrorist, someone would hold them responsible for ruining the lives of hndreds instead of insisting a greater good was done

(Anonymous) 2013-12-04 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllll, the lockdown of Boston after the marathon bombing was pretty harsh, on the scale of things. Didn't necessarily ruin anyone's lives, but looked an awful lot like a police state.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2013-12-04 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Not really. In the part of the city I lived in at the time, at least, you could go walk around the streets if you wanted to.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-04 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Superheroes =/= the state.
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2013-12-04 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Not a comic book fan, but aren't most superheroes enfranchised so as to for all intents and purposes be tools of the wider state aparatus?

Operating completely outside that would be problematic, yes.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-04 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Very few of them. That I can think of. Even including the various plausible deniability black ops teams.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-04 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
No. Many of them are explicitly outside the law.