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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-03 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2527 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2527 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-04 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
nope. in reality, the attention would be on the victims and whoever caused the destruction would, and rightfully so, be trying to make restitution to the victims... or facing a media firestorm for being hypocrites that care just enough about the people to save them but not to follow through and make sure the people whose homes, finances, and whathaveyou were destroyed are okay.

my problem with avengers was they never cared. destroy buildings, they Did What They Had To Do, then go relax with no though of who's going to pay for all the damages... welps, not them! they're the heroes, they did their job of saving the world, and now the job of making it livable again for dozens of people is... someone else's.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2013-12-04 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Why should they pay for the damages? Say there is a house on fire, and the fire department puts it out with firehoses. This process damages part of the house, but far less damage than it would had suffered had it been burned to the ground. Should the firefighters have to pay for that damage?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-04 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
This exactly. AYRT sounds like the kind of person who would send a bill and an angry letter to the fire department.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-12-04 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Excellent metaphor.
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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2013-12-06 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Coming in late (had this open from last night, decided to finish reading) -- this is actually why some states have Good Samaritan laws. Because people actually have successfully sued people who were just trying to save their damn lives.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-04 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Aside from Iron Man throwing money at the problem -- which it is probably safe to bet he did -- there's a limited amount the Avengers could do to make it livable again. And we don't know that they didn't do it.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-04 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
1. The villains are the ones who "caused the destruction," not the heroes.

2. How are the heroes "hypocrites" for not trying to fix every conceivable part of the problem? We're not talking about a government, which collects taxes and has responsibilities and obligations to its citizens - we're talking about a group of volunteers who have just risked their lives to prevent huge numbers of people from dying. So you're saying that, because they have chosen to undertake that task, they are now responsible for any destruction that took place while trying to save lives, and that if they don't empty their pockets to fix it all, they're actively bad people (even if they aren't billionaires, or if they suffered serious injury themselves during the battle)?

You're totally right, the Avengers should've just stayed home and not caused any trouble. Then none of it would've been their fault, even if the entire planet was subjugated by alien invaders and the entire city of New York was leveled. They wouldn't want to break anything, after all.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-12-04 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
I can't think of a single instance of Faceless Government irl actually playing the same role as a fictional hero, as in, stepping in to stop a clear threat that they didn't set up and for no personal gain. Government is a double-edged sword. I'm not sure that's a fair comparison.

As for your second paragraph, all that stuff would have happened after the shown canon time, so tbh we don't know how they reacted to it or what they said. I would not be surprised if Tony helped financially with it, or if he or Steve helped physically with the cleanup when they could. But either way, I'm not sure how you would expect them to include this remorse for something that, again, wasn't their fault during the movie when it would take up precious screen time and make the ending choppy and weird.

It still feels like you're basically blaming the heroes for what happened which is just...really backwards.

and whoever caused the destruction would, and rightfully so, be trying to make restitution to the victims

That would be the villains and it's unlikely they're alive. If they are, it would be 100% right to make them pay as much as they could for the damage, of course.
Edited 2013-12-04 01:41 (UTC)