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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-03 06:49 pm

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[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-12-04 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
That is just hippy bullshit. You start childhood off doing chores together, then gradually give the child their own chores to do themselves on their own. Kids will enjoy their childhood regardless of schooling and chores, they manage it in Singapore and S. Korea, its a parents job to get their kid shaped up to be an adult capable of handling responsibilities. All this crap about sheltering them to enjoy childhoods just generated the biggest generation of 30 year old pre-teens and indulged brats in history. Kids know how to enjoy themself, they need to be taught chores.
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[personal profile] ill_omened 2013-12-04 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
You mean the South Korea and Singapore that has kids constantly having breakdowns because of exam pressure.

That's not an ideal social model.
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[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-12-04 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Only a few are swinging the lead like that, most of them get their head down. Once they get shown that faking an illness won't get them out of the chores they get with the programme. They don't mollycoddle their kids, which is one of the reasons they own just about everything else these days. And they still find time to respect their parents and family.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-04 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
DA

You should prolly add "age-appropriate" in front of "chores" to make your point clearer? When I was a little kid, I wasn't expected to do the dishes, but I did play/pretend to do so, in one side of the sink, as one of my parents was washing them for real in the other side. Or the "everything has a home" game where the kids are encouraged to pick up their toys after they're done playing (or have the kid "show" the parent where the toy goes, if they're really young).

Not forced labour, just teaching them how to get along in the world, in an age-appropriate way.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-12-04 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Seconding this. I mean, it's not as if telling a kid to take twenty minutes out of their hours of playtime to fold the laundry or sweep the floor is somehow hindering their childhood. As kids get older, they need to take on more responsibilities - school, work, and chores at home.

I mean, I don't think anyone would consider it reasonable to be doing the dishes, the laundry, the mopping/vacuuming, and the cooking if you're 5. That is a little overbearing if they're 15, but often understandable depending on family circumstances. And that is something that seems pretty reasonable to expect out of a 25 year old still living at home, especially if they don't work/aren't contributing to the household financially.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2013-12-04 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
They least ideal part is that college-bound, educated Westerners, while far behind them in educational attainment by grade 12, surpass them by senior year of college, and are leaps ahead by the end of a graduate program (which is a large part of why you see so many East Asian graduate students transfer NA/European institutions if they have any serious plans to enter a field of academic research). What is the point drilling kindergarteners and driving middle schoolers to suicide so that they can get into a "good" (read: prestigious, not highly ranked internationally or rigorous) university and blow the whole time screwing around, because they know it's that piece of paper that's going to get them into a good job, not what they learned in college? What does it matter if some low-level HR manager at Hyundai got 97% on his 6th grade algebra test and not 85% - all of which he has forgotten, starting at about 18.

Moreover, looooool at people who think that these kids are doing lots of chores as well as hours of night school. That would take away from cramming time. No, their mothers do them. To the point where most Japanese/Korean men can't even do their own laundry, let alone cook something.

People commenting who don't know shit about shit is the way of the internet, though, I suppose.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-07 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly this. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who sees this.