[ SECRET POST #2527 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2527 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[diet_poison]

For A and B, I was talking about a specific kind of superheroes, with emphasis being on the Avengers, not superheroes in general. In other words, I was referring to what the secret was talking about, which I suppose I assumed you were doing too. Maybe not? But I'm not talking about "superheroes" who go around and wreck shit for the fun of it (and I would then hesitate to continue calling them superheroes tbh); I'm talking about superheroes who stop violent and destructive villains because it's the right thing to do, which may incur collateral damage either as a result of their necessary actions or as a result of the villain's rampage, or both.

For C, you sound awfully naive if you believe that cops and such are actually generally more noble than superheroes (especially keeping in mind that the later is fictional and often presented as being especially noble).

In regards to your other points:

1. Do you really expect cops to effectively stop Loki?? Also, how much time exactly did they have?

2. Apparently Loki isn't the "scrappy of the piece" considering how much trouble it was to shut him down...

[crunchysunrises]

C - Maybe I just believe that average people have the power to save themselves.

1. Yes. See the above point. And all of the myths, including the Norse ones, in which a trickster character is outwitted by an average (or below average, in some stories) person.

2. The Avengers/SHIELD's difficulties don't make them less objectively overpowered or him more powerful. It's a fact: they had way more resources than he did.

[diet_poison]

Maybe I just believe that average people have the power to save themselves.

...wat

dude no if a giant ten foot tall alien that wanted to kill you were standing in front of you and you had no superpowers you'd shit yourself and scream and probably die and that is exactly what I would do too.

And all of the myths

This is MCU. What Loki did in the myths is utterly beside the point.

The Avengers is just an example. You can imagine a similar scenario with basically any villain. Loki had powers that made it impossible for normal humans to strongarm him. Natasha was able to manipulate him, but she's gifted in that area, and manipulation would hardly have stopped him from setting up his conduit. So take Loki as he is in the movie, or imagine it's some other villain, and the point stands. Ordinary humans do not have the power to stop this guy.

It's a fact: they had way more resources than he did.

So why then did it take an entire movie to defeat him? Raw tallying of resources doesn't alone demonstrate an advantage. The fellow is very good at hiding, and he eluded SHIELD for an amazingly long time given their tracking and locating abilities, and he has some incredible sources of cosmic power at his disposal. He brainwashed Hawkeye with zero resistance. He would have done the same to Tony if not for his arc reactor. Stop acting like he's just an ordinary criminal.