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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-03 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2527 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2527 ⌋

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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-12-04 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
"Oh yes, let's change EVERYTHING about the narrative and give the characters the same names! Brilliant!"

I gotta say -- while this is theoretically a legitimate reason for disliking an adaptation, in practice it is actually so subjective that it is pretty much impossible for everyone to agree objectively about what was fucked up vs what wasn't.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2013-12-04 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Note that I didn't say I disliked the new works. Just that they're not really adaptations, more like independent fanworks wearing adaptation drag and loosely in the spirit of the original work.

And no, it's not subjective at all to point out that the movies add at least three additional perspectives, break the subjectivity and unreliable narrator of the novel by giving the Dwarves, Elves, and Gandalf center stage, cover events that were retconned into the timeline in later works, and give Thorin motivations that didn't even exist in the original work.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2013-12-04 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
That's true, but a lot of people don't agree that extra-canonical = anti-canonical. Just sayin'. Some people will go "oooh, this is a nice improvement/expansion on the books" and not feel like the additions make the movies unlike the books. (I'm not one of them, but there are plenty of people who do feel that way, particularly those who watched the movies first).

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2013-12-04 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
"That's true, but a lot of people don't agree that extra-canonical = anti-canonical."

Canon is a bullshit concept. Just sayin'.