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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-03 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2527 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2527 ⌋

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2013-12-04 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
My understanding is that SHIELD isn't attached to any given government or governments.

Ok, then who do you think they are attached to, and who pays them?

Either way, they're clearly much more capable than cops and in many cases more capable than militaries.

But I trust mob rule or the "benevolent dictatorship" of the strong even less. The point of living in a society is that the strong don't get to set the rules by virtue of being strong.

That isn't how the Avengers work, though. Nothing they have done have indicated that they are interested in being dictators of any sort, so I'm just not sure how you are getting there.

And, of course, they are individuals, not coalitions of people scratching each others' backs. Bureaucratically, they could only do so much.

Also, you seem to be forgetting that all of these "repeated demonstrations of using their powers for good" happened in secret.

Yep, because Tony is so private and secretive...the public audience in Germany was private and secretive...the entire MO of the Avengers, with the whole giving-Cap-flashy-suits-to-put-hope-in-the-heart-of-the-people thing is super secretive

EDIT: Also, while I didn't spot the corruption inherent to a pair of cops being overweight and not immediately obeying Capt America, I do think it's over the top to portray them as being completely incompetent. They're trained and RL has demonstrated that, even without knowing what's going on, first responders aren't that helpless and befuddled.

how is this even relevant

and it's interesting, for all the competence you talk about cops as having (which they often do), you seem to think your average citizen is as smart as a box of rocks