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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-03 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2527 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-12-04 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, college is often between 20hours and 40 hours of classes a week, not 8 or 10 hours like in the USA. You can't choose when you take your courses either (I heard that in the US sometimes the class you have to take has different times when it is taught and you can just choose one so you can take all your classes in the evening, for example, and work during the day. Here it is impossible, every class is only given once).

Also also, some countries have laws limiting the amount of days students can work.

I definitely live in Western Europe and traditionally here you stay at your parents' house until you have your first full time job. It isn't seen as a favor from your parents that you have to repay, it's just normal.

You are expected to help around the house the same as you always have, but if you have no means of supporting yourself then it's a stupid financial decision to move out.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-12-04 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
America has a strong culture of moving out as soon as you can after hitting adulthood, but a lot of that is backed by how easy it was to get independent housing in your early twenties from the 50's-70's. Then the tradition shifted, and the idea was that you graduate from college, then you and a bunch of friends/roommates would share an apartment or rent a house together until getting married and starting your own families. Nowadays, though, that's even less feasible, so people just move back home, and only very recently do you start to see it the trend being that apart from going to universities (which provide dorms for students), kids don't leave in the first place. That said, the culture is still geared towards "move out when you can", it's just that the 'when' has shifted back dramatically (at least from the American perspective).

(Anonymous) 2013-12-04 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
That's generally not true in all of Western Europe, though. A lot of people here move out when they go to university because they can't study what they want to study in the city where they live (or they could, but they don't get accepted into their local university and then have to move out to study somewhere else). I went to university in both France and Germany and the large majority of my fellow students did not live with their parents.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-05 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
You do have the option of going to school part-time in the US, and there is a real effort to accommodate students' schedules with multiple sections of a class or lab; plus, some sections will be exclusively online. But this is not only to accommodate working students--it's also to accommodate conflicts between lectures so that students can finish in four years. "Full-time" in the US is 12 to 18 (sometimes more) contact hours a week, not 8 to 10. Also, if you're in a science curriculum, there will be weekly labs that last 3 hours, but for which you only receive one credit--so the number of credits you're taking won't always reflect your contact hours. The rule of thumb is that you should do at least two hours of study outside class for every contact hour you have--but with lab reports and practicals, field trips, research papers, etc., you could end up doing a lot more. And students in the design fields practically live in their studios and pull more all-nighters than anyone but the engineers.