[ SECRET POST #2528 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2528 ⌋

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Re: SJWs - some SJW spotting tips

[nyxelestia]

Social Justice Warrior (n.):

• "You're either with us or against us" mentality - everything is in black and white, if someone makes a stupid ***-ist/***-phobic comment (referred to here on out as istphobe comments because doing it properly is a pain in the ass), they are clearly an unrelenting bigot, and there is no such thing as actual ignorance (as in, someone literally just did not know some term, phrase, or other content was an issue)


• "It's not my job to educate you" - as I mentioned, while some people are jerks, some people are just genuinely ignorant, in that they do not know something will be offensive or why it would be so, and SJW's have a tendency of assuming that a.) everyone already is well-educated on the issue and thus is trying to be offensive on purpose, or b.) if they have somehow "made it this far" (whatever that means) then there is no point to try and educate them 'now' because clearly there is no hope for them; they insist it is on the part of the person who made the istphobic comment to somehow know when they are going to be offensive, even if it's something they had no prior knowledge of


• Leaving out contrary information - the most recent example is someone making a list of all Disney movies with POC leads and leaving out Lilo and Stitch, which is not only a movie but several movies and a TV show with powerful female characters with their own agency and which highlights some RL difficulties and even subtly hints/touches upon economic exploitation of indigenous populations in Hawai'i by the tourism industry...aka, from the social justice perspective, one of the best movies you can have for kids that still sticks to conventional Disney ethics*; however, it can also be something like saying a show "only has two female main characters" when there are only five total (can't remember where this is from but it was something I saw a few years ago)


• "Fuck Off, [Insert Majority Here]!" - a tendency to attack people for any kind of majority privilege, regardless of context (i.e. take a look at the "die cis scum" tag on Tumblr)


• "Don't silence me!" - a tendency to assume that anyone of a majority trying to speak on a minority issue (i.e. a white person speaking on an ethnic issue, a cis person trying to speak on a trans issue, etc) automatically equals silencing members of that minority, or similar tactics


• "Apologies don't fix anything!" - a refusal to accept apologies and a tendency to continue harassing people after they have apologize, or to assume any apology made is insincere/forced and that they obviously don't mean it


• Exploding Over Small Details - SJWs will be the type to decry an entire piece of media over one misstep, or to equate even the smallest istphobic missteps with the most egregious examples of bigotry (i.e. calling a movie a sexist movie if a man calls a woman a bitch, even if the movie and the character otherwise treat women very well)


• Assuming Insult No Matter What - they tend to ignore the reality that someone that can be severely insulting in one area or to one generation can be completely benign in another - so you might get someone who refers to a black character as a "darkie" either because it isn't pejorative where they come from, or English is not their first language and they were lead to believe this was an okay term; this ties into "not my job to educate you" and "refusal to accept apologies" in that they tend to have the attitude that everyone they speak to has exactly the same knowledge-background as them and thus if they use a word, then they know it's an insult and refuse to accept that someone may genuinely not know

There is some more to it (namely the reputations for bullying and harassment), but these are the biggest ones.

The reason why people dislike SJW's, though, is because of the way they tend to turn people off of their main cause. I'm in a rush so I'll leave a link to somewhere that I explained it a little better:

http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/806413.html?thread=654471437#cmt654471437

(And rather conveniently, an SJW downthread).

* = sorry if it's ranty, but Lilo and Stitch is my favorite Disney second only to Mulan, and a lot of that is for the reasons I've listed here, so I took it a bit more personally than I normally do when this was left out

Re: SJWs - some SJW spotting tips

[(Anonymous)]

SJWs are extremely hypocritical, when you stop and think about it. They expect everyone to be completely understanding of and sensitive to people who are different, and yet they have very little of this sensitivity and understanding themselves in that they assume everyone has had the right series of life experiences, educational opportunities, and cultural influences to achieve this level of perfection.

This is why I lose respect for and have no interest in the ravings of people who go the SJW (rather than SJA) route. They're too close-minded and hypocritical to have a leg to stand on.

Good post(s)!