[ SECRET POST #2533 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2533 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Do Muslims find "O Come O Come Emmanuel" offensive?

[intrigueing]

Islam hadn't even been invented at the time of Jesus's birth.

Re: Do Muslims find "O Come O Come Emmanuel" offensive?

[(Anonymous)]

And "Veni veni Emmanuel" was likely written in the 12th century, when Islam had been around for 500 or so years and controlled the lands that Christian Europe regarded as the Holy Places. It's not really outside the realm of possibility that "captive Israel" referred both to the Jews in Babylon and Palestine under Arab rule. And I say that as someone who loves the carol and suspects that Muslims probably don't care.

Re: Do Muslims find "O Come O Come Emmanuel" offensive?

[(Anonymous)]

I suspect that the application of "captive Israel" to present times is less political and more religious - a hope for the second coming and the Kingdom of God in general terms to liberate believing Christians from the cruelty of life etc etc, rather than a plea for the liberation of the Holy Land. I think this is pretty clear from looking at the rest of the text of the thing.

It would also be pretty odd to invoke Jesus' coming to liberate a specific terrestrial territory, in a lot of ways. It would be one thing to petition him, but the hymn is much more millenarian than that. I don't think it ultimately makes sense as a Crusades thing.

Re: Do Muslims find "O Come O Come Emmanuel" offensive?

[(Anonymous)]

IIRC the Crusades were pretty millenarian--I don't think you can tease out the pious motives from the cynical motives of political aggrandizement quite that easily when you're talking about medieval people.