[ SECRET POST #2534 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2534 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Doctor Who]


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03.
[Guild Wars 2]


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04.
[Perry Mason]


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05.
[Sleepy Hollow]


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06.
[My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic; gorefic]


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07.
[Marco Mengoni/Max Pezzali (883)]


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08.
[Hetalia]


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[Once Upon a Time and Uncanny X-Men]


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10.
[Borderlands 2]


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[Elementary]


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[Rise of the Guardians. Art by Rufftoon.]


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[Mabinogi]


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14.
[minecraft/C418]


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15.
[The Big Bang Theory]








Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 038 secrets from Secret Submission Post #362.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fauxkaren]

Ok, I think we have to start at square 1.

You know that Middle Earth isn't real, right?

And that this is a fantasy series?

And therefore you can do whatever the fuck you want in a fantasy setting without disturbing historical accuracy?

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Maybe it's because I have read a fair bit of the background stuff, about how it was originally based on the idea of writing a mythology for England that was truly English instead of imported from France. That sort of background makes me fail at seeing POCs, just like I fail at seeing POCs in Authurian legends.

[(Anonymous)]

Then what do you think of a black Heimdall? Similar rationalisation and yes - plenty of offence has been taken.

The bulk of the Norse myths were only written down because the Christian author was pissed that English stories/myths were infiltrating Iceland, Tolkien wanted to put a very English spin on the Norse myths... Let's put aside the verrry outdated nationalist and intrinsically racial guff and cast whoever the fuck we want in yet another adaptation of old themes. Skin colour shouldn't matter in telling a good fantasy story, or indeed most stories, in this era.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Marvelverse is Marvelverse.

The thing it all comes down to is that when I read Tolkien, it sounds to me like he's speaking about white people. Could the movies have a few more Maoris in the background without orc costumes? Sure! They probably could!

[(Anonymous)]

OT, but actually there was the occasional Moorish Knight in Arthurian Legend.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but even with the occasional Moorish knight, that knight is not someone like Lancelot or Gawain, or a good many of the other big name knights.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

If Tolkien specifically set it in a European inspired world - which he did - there's no reason to criticize the actors being white. European fantasy, like it or not, is a thing. If they want to randomly stick POC in unexplained, hey, that's cool, but it's not an obligation. Having a white cast is not automatically a bad and racist thing, and in medieval inspired worlds where society wasn't racially diverse isn't being picky, it's being realistic. Is realism often cherrypicked in fantasy? Absolutely. But Tolkien was very detailed in his world building, society and culture both. And having magic/dragons/elves doesn't mean your world doesn't have to follow any rules at all.

If you're saying in general, POC are underrepresented in media, particularly in fantasy, I agree. But if you're saying that LOTR is bad/racist/whatever because it's all white, that's pretty ridiculous.