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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-10 08:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2534 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2534 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Doctor Who]


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[Guild Wars 2]


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[Perry Mason]


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[Sleepy Hollow]


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[My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic; gorefic]


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[Marco Mengoni/Max Pezzali (883)]


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[Hetalia]


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[Once Upon a Time and Uncanny X-Men]


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[Borderlands 2]


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[Elementary]


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[Rise of the Guardians. Art by Rufftoon.]


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[Mabinogi]


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[minecraft/C418]


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[The Big Bang Theory]








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(Anonymous) 2013-12-11 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
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To be fair, I kind of resent the argument of "because there is magic, why can't we also be (insert social issue)" because fantasy doesn't have to... not be realistic. I mean, fantasy should be in the mindset of, if magic and dragons exist, how does that change the world? How will realistic people act? It's one altered premise. I kind of hate the strawman "social justice" (sorry for scare quotes, not sure how to categorize) argument that because there is magic, how dare people insist that a European-inspired fantasy have all white people. The cherrypicking argument of "look, they don't have rotten teeth and shit in the streets, why aren't they as racially diverse as New York City or women's equality" just seems silly to me. Not that those concepts are bad or inappropriate for fantasy at all, but I'm not sure why it's a decidedly bad thing if a fantasy world has sexism or racism (or is just all white, assuming it's set in a European-inspired world).

tl;dr - having fantasy with racial diversity and strong female characters is awesome. but not having those things doesn't have to be inherently not awesome, and arguing "well, there's magic, so..." is kinda weak.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2013-12-11 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
I find it weak too but I find the argument it's trying to counter equally silly. Basically I spend a lot of time tilting my head quizzically in these discussions.

For me the only argument necessary for adding in more diversity is "people enjoy it". I remember the first time I read a story about a girl with a crush on another girl. I feel like it meant more to me than it should but it really did mean a lot to me. I'd like to see more people experience that because it's a nice feeling.

I don't think it's automatically bad when a story doesn't have all different kinds of people in it, but to me it's just kind of a "but why not?" thing. There is such an amazing variety of experiences out there and I want to write about people who go through all of them.