[ SECRET POST #2534 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2534 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Doctor Who]


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03.
[Guild Wars 2]


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04.
[Perry Mason]


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05.
[Sleepy Hollow]


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06.
[My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic; gorefic]


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07.
[Marco Mengoni/Max Pezzali (883)]


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08.
[Hetalia]


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[Once Upon a Time and Uncanny X-Men]


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10.
[Borderlands 2]


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[Elementary]


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[Rise of the Guardians. Art by Rufftoon.]


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[Mabinogi]


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14.
[minecraft/C418]


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15.
[The Big Bang Theory]








Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 038 secrets from Secret Submission Post #362.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm presuming you don't actually mean "prehistoric". If you do, then you are talking about the first humans, who migrated up from Africa, and thus were not, in fact, white.

If you are talking more about medieval Europe, which people tend to do when talking about how all fantasy stories are okay being white, you should know that medieval Europe wasn't as lily white as most people seem to believe. Link: http://kellysue.tumblr.com/post/68195356646/but-despite-hollywoods-near-complete-refusal-to

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I mean pre-history in a sense of set before known recorded history, not in the dinosaur sense. Besides, if we're talking about Tolkien in particular, it does not work with evolutionary concepts, as it includes it's own creation myth.

Tolkien also did make use of what I call "physical virtues" - the "Good" characters being tall, beautiful, nice voices, etc, and often his descriptions of "beautiful" tended more to lighter skin, with "Lesser Men" tending to be more dark.

Is that racist? It may be, by our standards, and in most fantasy I don't mind a bit more obvious diversity (and expect it a lot more in something like Forgotten Realms), but I don't know, maybe this is my one sticking point in Tolkien.

[(Anonymous)]

Tolkien is problematic as fuck unfortunately. Evoking the past romantically tends to get people's nostalgia going for a "simpler time" when you could tell if people were bad or good by their physical features, where kings were noble and kingly, the peasants were hard working and happy, and... yeah, it never existed.

I mean, I like to indulge in that occasionally, and Tolkien is a product of his time, but I don't necessarily want or expect modern adaptations of myths, legends or classics to be as old-fashioned, you know?

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Well I do not disagree that the "physical virtues" are problematic. I like fics that take a look at the idealistic "hard-working and happy" peasants that the Shire seems to exemplify, and go looking for the underside.

Maybe the movies could have had a bit more of Maori actor in bared-faced roles as humans. But I have seen fan-castings of the main characters as POCs and... I can't see it. "Physical virtues" aside, Tolkien was describing white people when he described the likes of Aragorn, Boromir, the Hobbits, and any number of the Elves.

[kathkin]

Nooo. 'Prehistoric' means 'before recorded history'. In the case of Europe, that includes the Bronze Age and earlier. I.e. there were prehistoric white europeans.

Of course, Bronze Age Europe was a hell of a lot more connected to the rest of the world than people tend to suppose - but that's neither here nor there cause I'm p sure Middle Earth is supposed to be even earlier than the Bronze Age.