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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-15 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2539 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2539 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-16 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
What was the Uncle Tom line? Because there's at least ONE super significant literary source that would explain an "Uncle Tom" reference.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-16 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
The Uncle Tom line was from Fire and Hemlock (one of the books she had plagiarized in her fan fiction) where one of the character's niece called them "Uncle Tom" and he asked them not to because it reminded him of the book Uncle Tom's Cabin.

She is supposed to be nodding to this when: He'd asked her to stop calling him Uncle Luke about a year ago, claiming that it made him feel old, and anyway reminded him of Uncle Tom's Cabin. Besides, he'd reminded her gently, he wasn't really her uncle, just a close friend of her mother's who'd known her all her life.

So, not so much a line she took, but a reference she tried to take? But it is a really bad one that doesn't make any sense. The original characters who had the conversation were named Tom and Polly, and Polly was calling him Uncle Tom. This was an good literary reference.

Claire has Clary remember a conversation that they had (so it isn't a word for word plagiarism thing) where the same thing happens, because she is referencing that scene of that book. But...it makes no sense in the context she wrote it, because his name is Luke and he isn't her uncle. So not only was there no reason for her to up and one day call him uncle, there was no reason for him to be reminded of that book.

If you want to reference a book, you have the characters acknowledge they are referencing a book. You don't have your characters use another books active story for their back story, and not even nod to the fact that it was in a previous book. That's not really referencing it anymore...though I wouldn't called it plagiarism either. I am not sure what to call it.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-16 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
I am not sure what to call it

I'd call it lazy.