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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-17 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2541 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2541 ⌋

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Re: purists and haters to the left: you are missing the point.

[personal profile] ibbity 2013-12-18 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, the Arthurian legends ARE British in origin. The French extensively overhauled and added to them, but in origin they were most definitely British. Arthur and several of his knights (some of whom have different or differently spelled names in the original stories) appear in Welsh (i.e. native British, as opposed to Anglo-Saxon) mythology quite a number of times---check out the Mabinogion for example. The (original) Welsh Arthur and his knights are a world apart from the courtly French stories, they're far more involved with magic and the fairy mythos of the British Isles than they are with tournaments and Courtly Love. Arthur and his knights also appear in Geoffry of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britannae, which, while it's obviously not to be taken as a literal history of Britain, nonetheless amounts to at the very least a collection of traditional British folklore and legend that predates the Norman Invasion (though old Geoff himself did not, being born about 40 years later.)
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Re: purists and haters to the left: you are missing the point.

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2013-12-18 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Well then maybe the part that Tolkien did not like is that the original stories were so buried under the courtly French stories, and stuff like the Mabinogion was obscure at the time he was wishing there was more English mythology.
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Re: purists and haters to the left: you are missing the point.

[personal profile] ibbity 2013-12-18 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
This would be my guess. The Mabinogion isn't that well-known to most people (I only know about it because of my fascination with ancient British history and folklore), so it isn't a wide-spread mythos like the French retellings are. not to mention that Tolkien also wanted to incorporate elements from Anglo-Saxon mythology into his stories.