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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-18 06:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #2542 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-12-19 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
He never solves those mysteries though, there's just a bunch of handwaving and then OH SHINY LOOK I AM DISTRACTING YOU WITH THIS NEW SHINY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FINISH THE OTHER THING I STARTED ISN'T THIS NEW THING SHINY PLEASE SAY IT'S SHINY LOOK LOOK IT'S SO SHINY PLEASE LOVE ME 5EVA

I honestly think he's either a speed freak or he has some rare form of unchecked, undiagnosed ADHD, because that's exactly how his writing comes across as. OK OK I am a broken record I always say that (tag me Moffat's-on-speed!anon if you must).

To be fair, that kind of writing used to work, for sitcoms, back in the 20th century. For a science fiction show, written in the 21st and set in all different time periods? Yeah, not so much.

They need to at least get someone who wrote for DW sometime prior to 1986, for the next showrunner, is what I'm saying.
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2013-12-19 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Moffat's writing is so unfocused and his plots don't really actually make sense so it seems like he's hoping no one will notice how his plots don't hold water if he just slaps a lot of snappy dialogue on top and just zooms past the plot without giving the audience time to linger and thing about it.

WELL IT DIDN'T WORK MOFFAT.

I HAVE NOTICED HOW YOUR PLOTS DON'T MAKE SENSE.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-19 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Yeah, you, me, and every other human being on the planet with more than three functional brain cells.

Unless Moffat actually thinks the only ones who WATCH the show are idiots. In the one BBC Sherlock interview I saw with them, he kind of did give off that vibe. Oh, and in the Space (SciFi Channel in Canada) DW retrospective, where they had people talking about an old ep from each of the Doctors' runs, he gave off that same sort of fat-cat-I-can-totally-do-what-I-want-so-suck-it-plebs type attitude. I changed the channel every time he started yammering on about the former Doctors on principle alone; was he not the one who "didn't want to look backward" for the 50th?

Saw the ad for the XMas Special today. It's totally a rehash of the 50th, at least that's what it looks like to me. And I didn't even watch the 50th. And I could tell, just from the trailer, that it's just going to be more of the same "Look! No, look at this! Forget that other thing I just said, and the thing after! Look at THIS instead! No, no, forget all that! THIS IS SHINY LOOK I AM DAZZLING YOU I AM ON FIRE" etc. etc.

The thing I REALLY don't understand, from what I dimly recall of the paperbacks in the 80s with which I have long since parted ways, is that Moffat's DW books are NOT that bad. They're not that great (this is Moffat we're talking, after all), but nowhere near the level of sheer psychosis the episodes have become under his reign. I mean, the plot synopsis for Neil Gaiman's episode even reads the same as Moffat's usual "style."

Unless that IS the "style" of the writing these days, in which case, may God have mercy on our souls....

(Anonymous) 2013-12-19 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I was worried about the most recent season, because I felt like I never understood what was going on, and I thought it was me, that I'd binged early seasons and was just burned out and not watching closely enough - that if I went back and watched carefully, while not knitting/etc, that it would make sense.

Good to know I'm not alone.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-19 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Definitely not alone. The whole schtick of Moffat's run seems to be "it doesn't make sense and it doesn't have to make sense because you're all either just children or stupid adults watching a stupid show and I'm the king of the hill" or smth IDEK anymore man. I stuck with it for a long while but eventually. Eventually ANYTHING was better than wasting an hour of my life watching that show.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-19 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I have literally never come across a Moffat fan who didn't have a whole lot of headcanon covering up all the plot holes and things we've missed. Good headcanon, don't get me wrong, but if you're going to have to put that much effort into making his plots make sense, it just feels like what's the point of Moffat, then?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-19 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
PLEASE LOVE ME 5 EVA

I'ma keep dat one :B

(Anonymous) 2013-12-19 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Tumblr corrupted me tbph. I just now realized it actually ties back to Five LOL.
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[personal profile] 51stcenturyfox 2013-12-19 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
I have the same reaction. I waited for payoff during the first series he wrote but SO MANY THINGS had no resolution at all.

Screw dat. At least RTD wrapped shiz UP in a satisfactory way.

I still watch, but I'm biding my time for the next showrunner.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-19 10:58 am (UTC)(link)
RTD was not particularly good at resolutions imo, but he did tend to tie up loose ends.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-19 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Ehh, my BFF and fellow local Whovian has ADHD and even when he's off meds while we're watching, he still finds it obnoxiously full of whiplash and plot spackle.