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⌈ Secret Post #2543 ⌋

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[Fangirl]

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[Anne Neville, The White Queen]

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[Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan]

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[Merlin]

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[Elementary]

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[Whitechapel]

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[Grey's Anatomy]

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(Legend of Korra)

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[Papa Pear Saga + Doctor Who]

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[Godfrey Gao as Magnus Bane in "The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones"]

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[Kwon Yuri, Tiffany Hwang and Jessica Jung of Girls' Generation]

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[Les Miserables/Anton Zetterholm/Rob Houchen]

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For me it's not even the in-show depiction but more how the actors/writers/etc talk about it. Take Teen Wolf for example, Jeff Davis is always talking about queer characters and how maybe Stiles is bisexual and everyone plays up the whole Sterek thing, but never once in the show do they actually do anything about all this talk. It wouldn't be queerbaiting imo if the people working on the show didn't tease the audience about it so much when they obviously have zero plans to do anything in-show.

This makes sense to me! But my dash was just overran by folks who blame Sherlock for queerbaiting, and I'm pretty sure that the creators repeatedly stated that it was just a straight friendship... Granted, these same folks claimed that Jeremy Brett plays a canonically queer Holmes, so *sighs*. Oh, tumblr.

Granted, these same folks claimed that Jeremy Brett plays a canonically queer Holmes,

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And also that BBC ought to make Sherlock and John a gay couple because it shall set a standard for the future adaptations. And if they don't go for that, they shall be harming the LGBTQ+ cause, since the raging popularity of the show shall make other producers wish to follow their recipe.

IDEK. They seem to be reasonable classic Holmesians when it comes to anything other than their H/W OTP.

Tbqf, they brought some interesting arguments up (Brett being engaged in a Wilde-related production, the absence of Mary Morstan etc.), but the idea itself is... like... nope.

I think that maybe I should not have followed them. But I was too desperate for ACD Holmesian blogs to be picky.

Something tells me they're not really ACD Sherlockians, if they're spinning wild conspiracy theories like that, tbh.....

Weird, I've heard queerbaiting defined as the opposite of that. When everything on the show indicates that there could be canon queerness, but then the writers when asked about it say "No, silly fangirls, where are you getting that idea? They're just good friends!"

Honestly it could go either way. It really depends on the attitude surrounding the topic.

Like I would definitely take the TW situation as queerbaiting by the creators and writers, but I can see how something like Destiel (disclaimer: I don't actually watch the show) could also be considered queerbaiting because of the way the relationship is written and joked about but then denied when straight up asked about it.

Take Teen Wolf for example, Jeff Davis is always talking about queer characters and how maybe Stiles is bisexual and everyone plays up the whole Sterek thing, but never once in the show do they actually do anything about all this talk.

Well, except for the fact that they actually do have two gay characters as part of the cast (and in a relationship), even if they aren't Stiles or Derek. There was also an episode with a lesbian couple (even if it didn't end well for one of them). So, yes, there are queer characters on the show and Jeff Davis can talk about having them. And, okay, so there has been some playing up of the Stiles/Derek thing among the cast and crew, but I think it was kind of brought on by the fanbase (it did kind blow up and I think really surprised people involved with show and they just went with it). Also, while I would kind of like to see a bisexual Stiles (and there's been nothing to contradict it), a maybe isn't any kind of commitment.

I think a maybe is still falling under queerbaiting, because I honestly think Jeff Davis has absolutely no plans to make that happen and is just toying with the audience.

And I also don't really consider background characters the same as having the main cast be queer.

And it was the Teen Wolf tumblr, PR, cast, crew, everyone official was all over the Sterek after they saw it would get fans excited. They've toned way down (after realizing how crazy and rabid some fans can get) but I think they totally knew what they were doing while having no plans to actually make it happen.

I'm not saying that I demand bi Stiles or the main characters to suddenly be queer, I'm just saying the way the writers and everyone involved in the show talks about it and jokes and teases the fans counts as queerbaiting in my opinion.

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