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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-24 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2548 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2548 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-25 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
Loyal is good.

Blindly loyal to some one who does not and cannot respect you as an equal, some one you follow because they are dominant and you are dependent on them... that isn't good.

With a dog and their owner it's fine. In two human beings that's incredibly unhealthy.

Okay, extended discussion of metaphors here

(Anonymous) 2013-12-25 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
I...think you're taking this way too literally. Very few metaphors or similies actually work down to all their details. So I can see how you can say "hey, why are the servile aspects of dogs included in this metaphor, rather than their loyalty?"

Like, if someone says "he is my rock", that means he is always there, always reliable, always solid and steady and unswaying. It doesn't mean they're a heavy unmoveable load who drags the person down, even though that's also a quality of an actual rock, and another metaphor -- millstone -- means exactly that, and it's the same thing as a rock. It means something entirely different though. And no doubt, there are slightly different meanings in different cultures and languages.

I guess you can say the same thing here -- why is a dog primarily associated with servility, rather than loyalty? Just because they have both qualities, doesn't mean the metaphor necessarily has to include both qualities, because there are plenty of other metaphors that don't include all qualities of the thing they're being a metaphor for, like, in my example, a rock.

Re: Okay, extended discussion of metaphors here

(Anonymous) 2013-12-25 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
Because nobody wants to be someone else's pet, jfc. Unless that's their kink.

Dogs can symbolise many things. If it's a reference to hunting skills or perseverance, it's a compliment. But if you're trying to say someone's a loyal friend... just say that. Saying that they're like your dog that you walk around on a leash is just creepy. Unless, again, that's what you do in your private life. Whatever.