[ SECRET POST #2550 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2550 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Rachel Getting Married]


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[american horror story: coven]


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[Mass Effect]


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[Rules of Engagement]


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Comments

[intrigueing]

Not only did I picture them as young, but the first story I ever read was "Charles Augustus Milverton" so I also pictured them as...well, the type of men who could/would do all the stuff they did in that story. Especially, like, everything about Watson.

re: your second paragraph. That's true too. I guess the fact that all the episodes have to be a standardized length, or double-length, means that they have to give them all similar pacings, which is a little weird when the stories vary in length and amount of action so much. Basically, some stories adapt to the Granada style much better than others do.

The Ronald Howard series is so cute! It's not exactly my thing (a bit TOO light-hearted for me, I think) but it...I don't know, scratches an itch, I suppose, that other adaptations don't -- the goofy good-natured genuinely fun-having side of the Holmes stories. Kind of the way the Ritchie series scratches an itch that other adaptations neglect, even though those movies aren't exactly my thing either. I'm not sure it's possible to do a perfect Holmes adaptation -- I just watch different adaptations for different angles ;)

[dreemyweird]

I guess the fact that all the episodes have to be a standardized length, or double-length, means that they have to give them all similar pacings, which is a little weird when the stories vary in length and amount of action so much. Basically, some stories adapt to the Granada style much better than others do.

Ah, good point, it did not occur to me before. That would certainly explain it to some extent.

I'm not sure it's possible to do a perfect Holmes adaptation -- I just watch different adaptations for different angles ;)

And this is very true. Though I've seen what you'd call "perfect" adaptations of books before - Treasure Island being a notable example - I've yet to see a Holmes that would be anywhere close to the ACD canon version. That's why I mind neither the ever smiling Richardson!Holmes nor the goofy young Howard. They are all great.

I'm always so happy about these Holmesian threads on f!s. It feels good to talk to you, tweedisgood, and all the cool anons

[intrigueing]

I think there is so much space for interpretation in between the lines in the stories it would be impossible to please everyone. But also...IMO the fact that it's Watson writing the stories is a big part of the stories' flavor, and that's just not translatable across mediums. No matter --more opportunities for more adaptations!

I love these convos too. Maybe I should try to think of Holmes secrets so I have an excuse to talk about it more :D

[tweedisgood]

Seeing, perhaps not. Hearing? Well, there is BBC Radio Holmes, which hits canonical heights so nearly perfect that I've yet to find anyone who doesn't like it.

OTOH I personally adore Granada and think it is by far and away the best TV adaptation, so clearly our mileage varies. Being middle aged myself, the ages of the actors bothers me a lot less perhaps?

[dreemyweird]

Yes, you're right, I totally forgot about the radio adaptation. Unfortunately, I'm not yet qualified to venture an opinion on this one - I've only heard a couple of stories so far (though I liked them a lot).

I like the Granada version, too! Love it, even. Just not quite as passionately as many other Holmesians seem to. I'd definitely say it is in my top three. And, as I mentioned, the ages of the actors don't really bother me anymore; they make it less canonical, more like.

[intrigueing]

No. Not that either. Not that it isn't great, because it is, but nope.

Anyway, I wouldn't like a perfect canonical Holmes adaptation if such a thing was possible. The very concept sounds soul-crushingly boring and mastubatory. Granada, for example, was good, but the episodes where they just tried to follow canon line by line were the dullest eps. I liked the ones where they interpreted cryptic or telling-not-showing parts of canon with some imagination. Like, what's the point when I could just read the story?

And it's not like there's anything wrong with middle aged characters, it's just that I've seen a dozen middle aged Holmeses and Watsons and so there's no novelty in it. Which therefore means that there's nothing new about the idea to justify the fact that they were decidedly NOT middle aged in the pre-hiatus stories, so it just doesn't fit with the otherwise very faithful-to-canon episodes. Just like an adaptation where 20 year old actors are playing out stories that you read about 35 year old characters would feel odd unless it was interpreted creatively enough to make the change cool. Totally subjective as far as being *bothersome*, of course, but real enough to make it a bit annoying when people say ACD is just like Granada.