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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-27 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2551 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2551 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Resident Evil movies]


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03. http://i43.tinypic.com/bg9zlf.gif
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04. [SPOILERS for something but idk what]



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05. [SPOILERS for Frozen]



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06. [SPOILERS for Bioshock Infinite]



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07. [WARNING for rape]

[Martin Freeman]


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08. [WARNING for rape]



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09. [WARNING for domestic abuse]















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(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Here's the kicker though, HOW DO YOU KNOW? When you mock victims, how do you KNOW if the person is "just joking" and if they truly believe that? You can't know. That's the key difference in humor. Black humor does not have to be at the expense of suffering, but showing a different side of things. There's a difference between seeing a starving person in the street and going "lol starving kids, isn't that funny" and "this new celebrity diet is getting out of hand". In the first you're JUST mocking the suffering, there's no real humor or anything in that. In the second it's still making light of starvation BUT by turning it around to mock the societal worship of it and pointing out the irony and darker side of the obsession with skinniness. But the second one DOES NOT point at the starving person and make them the butt of the joke. IT IS STILL DARK HUMOR. But it's humor meant to lift up the spirits of the suffering rather than kicking them while they're down. And when a person makes a joke that kicks some one while they're down, those being kicked have no way of telling that person REALLY thinks that way or they're "just kidding".
dreemyweird: (austere)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-12-28 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
The way you can usually tell if a person likes you or not, if their smile is genuine or fake, if their sympathy is sincere or insincere. Granted, some of us aren't good at this, but it doesn't meant that people should assume that they absolutely cannot tell if somebody really means something they say or not. In the majority of the cases, they can. In the majority of the cases, they are even correct.

And I really don't think that jokes about babies in microwaves lift anybody's spirits

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Absurdity is its own category. Generally the idea of babies in microwaves is so rare and absurd that pretty much no one is going to have a rough experience to color their view of that joke. When you add that level of ridiculousness, it helps.

And if you're not good at telling jokes without upsetting people, you could easily take a step back and question WHY you're telling the joke. Do you want to make people laugh? Well clearly that's not working. Change your approach.

When people make an assumption for the worst you say they shouldn't, but why should they make an assumption for the best? I've heard jokes from men about abusing and hitting women and I just figured it was a joke, until I found out they actually do those things. So I don't think it's out of line when some one makes jokes at some one's expense to think they're in support of that person suffering for their own amusement.
dreemyweird: (austere)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-12-28 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Many people have experience with dead babies, though. The "baby in a microwave" joke series includes all kinds of jokes about dead babies that end up pretty much everywhere. It is a very unpleasant topic to many folks out there, especially those who suffered miscarriages.

And if you're not good at telling jokes without upsetting people, you could easily take a step back and question WHY you're telling the joke. Do you want to make people laugh? Well clearly that's not working. Change your approach.

That's true, but it has nothing do with harmfulness/harmlessness of any particular type of jokes. Besides, not all jokes are told in order to make people laugh.

People shouldn't make any assumptions. People should just look and make judgements based on what they see. Sometimes they will be mistaken, yeah, but sometimes!=always. In fact, sometimes!=often. Those not suffering from any kind of disorders are normally pretty good at determining these things.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
DA
Why would you be telling jokes if it wasn't for the intent of making people laugh? I'm genuinely curious here.
dreemyweird: (austere)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2013-12-28 11:59 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry for being epically late, but

- sarcasm, for one, is usually not a means to make people laugh, and neither is irony. Many jokes are told in order to express one's feelings regarding something (unpleasant). Some are used as a way of coping with shock or stress. They may also be employed to formulate one's ideas in a paradoxical and elegant way.

They may just be there to remind people of those aspects of our existence that seem ironical - in fact, this function is the one many jokes used to carry prior to the seventeenth century (see perspective jokes in paintings, for one. I don't think people laughed at that).

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Generally the idea of babies in microwaves is so rare and absurd that pretty much no one is going to have a rough experience to color their view of that joke

this also applies to the idea of a hobbit date raping an elf

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
agreeing with capitals anon here
+ lol at the second joke