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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-28 04:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2552 ]


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Re: Ugh

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you could have done a much better job of it if you had gone into it trying to get people fired up. And it seems unlikely to me that you'd be unaware that Dworkin is a controversial figure. Therefore it seems likely that, at best, you were trying to stir up controversy and start a fight - not necessarily troll, maybe doing it with the best of intentions, but still, it gives the impression that you're looking for a fight. It seems to me that a better approach, especially at the beginning, would be to look for someone who is relatively uncontroversial and get a general conversation going first - rather than someone who gets everyone's backs up, including a lot of the feminists. Similarly, there's nothing wrong with attacking Playboy or criticizing the objectification of women. It's the Nazi element that's out of place. Maybe you just sincerely wanted to talk about the problems with Playboy and pornography. I don't know. I don't think the quote was a good lead-in to that discussion.

It's possible that I'm being too skeptical and suspicious, but I hope you can understand where I'm coming from. I do respect and admire Dworkin, like I said, but that doesn't mean that every discussion on feminism should start with her - she's a fantastic representative of an extremely specific branch of feminism.

Re: Ugh

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Similarly, there's nothing wrong with attacking Playboy or criticizing the objectification of women. It's the Nazi element that's out of place.

Yup. Most of this thread is people criticizing the Holocaust comparison, not supporting or defending the objectification of women or something.