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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-28 04:21 pm

[ SECRET POST #2552 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2552 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-29 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Huh? You might not like him, but Stannis is not meant to be a bad guy. George R.R. Martin has said so. I ultimately want Dany as queen of everything, but I like that Stannis is where he is. It's nice for the good guys to win one. (Ramsay's letter is a total lie, IMO.)

(Anonymous) 2013-12-29 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
grrm also thinks tyrion is a good guy and that dany is his hottest char he'd wanna meet irl, his opinion doesn't mean shit.
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[personal profile] analise 2013-12-29 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know. I find Tyrion fairly sympathetic. Not a "good" guy but I wouldn't call him a "bad" guy either. Not in fantasy-tropes sense, anyway. Probably what saved him from just turning into a clone of his father is that he was born a dwarf and so he's got a huge streak of self-loathing to go along with the narcissism and self-preservation instinct.

Yeah, some of my favorite chapters are the ones from Tyrion's POV.

All of that said, I can see how Stannis might be considered a "good guy" by Westerosi standards. I think he is trying to do what he thinks is best for Westeros, even though I don't think what he's doing actually is that. We don't actually see anything from his POV, just through what other characters think of him. Plus sometimes it's hard to remember that we as the reader know a lot more about what's going on in their world than the characters themselves do. They have to wait for most of their news to show up by messenger or birds. Assuming neither messenger nor bird gets shot down on the way there. He's making decisions based on much more limited information than the reader has and it might be that his best intelligence asset (though dubious, since she has her own motivations) is Melisandre who can at least see things in her fires, etc.

Okay, now I'm just rambling ridiculously.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-29 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
good guys don't murder their little brothers.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-29 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
and let me add, at least not in the most cowardly and backhanded way possible. challenge him to a duel or face in a battle field, if you feel the need to kill him.

stannis is both boring (more so than even the starks) and cowardly. not king material imho.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-29 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought that was Melisandre's idea and not his, though?

Which is ACTUALLY Stannis's other flaw - he's too willing to be led around by Melisandre.