[ SECRET POST #2553 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2553 ⌋

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Comments

[harp]

Return of the King messed with my head so much. Firstly, I wasn't expecting the Gollum backstory at all because it was in the first book and so far in the beginning of the first book that I didn't even know what I was seeing at first.

Then extra confusion/"wait, is that...? But he's not..." because the book description made me think Smeagol and Deagol weren't actually Hobbits, but in the same family ("scientific classification" use) or same genus.

And up until the movie, it never even occurred to me that Smeagol ever smiled or looked happy. I pictured sorta the same thing you described, just very "the type of friends that hang out in silence and go places together, but do their own thing once they're there". That was probably because of how Gandalf was telling it.

[(Anonymous)]

I always took it to mean they were part of the race that were the forerunners to hobbits. -shrugs-

[(Anonymous)]

Well, if I remember rightly (don't quote me on this, it's been some years), Hobbits actually are mostly categorized into three major groups. Harfoot (the ones we know as Hobbits) are the smallest and stoutest ones and have especially hairy feet, Fallohides were more elf-like, bigger and more fair haired then their dark haired cousins and loving trees and forests and all in all more, well like elves. And Stoors were the tribes who lived among the water, rowed boots (Harfoots in general can't swim and look at bigger bodies of water with suspicion) and apparently were the only Hobbits with facial hair and used boots. Smeagol and Deagol supposedly belonged to this tribe of Hobbits (which explains the rowing for leisure). Later on the tribes apparently mixed or vanished, I think a lot of this stuff is from the post-script and also in 'about Hobbits' (again, not a hundred percent sure).

tldr: Yes, they supposedly came from a different family/genus of Hobbits than the protagonists.

[ryttu3k]

Close, but all three groups are historical and all the current Hobbits are descended from them in various combinations. There's a lot of mixing involved, but some of the Hobbits can discern their ancestry - the Brandybucks, Bree Hobbits, et cetera have a lot of Stoor ancestry, the Brandybucks (and Tooks) also have Fallohide ancestry (Frodo is described as "taller than some and fairer than most" by Gandalf, and a lot of people take that as suggestion that he has a lot of Fallohide ancestry), and the Harfoots are most associated with Hobbits since they were the largest group when the Shire was colonised.

But yeah, Smeagol and Deagol's people were Stoors, or descended from them.

And. I'm sorry I am a dork XD