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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-01 07:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2556 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2556 ⌋

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insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

I was rather dissapointed.

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-01-02 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
The problem was mostly the author's comments.

It was good when it was ambigious. It suprned discussion. I thought that was what he wanted, and there were hints that both siblings had a point (Walky is a somewhat goofy child but in addition to looking more "white" does well in school and presents with very little drama, so he gets along well with his parents. Sal does seem to get treated different but has an actual criminal past that contributes to the strained relationship and flees almost immediately after showing up then yells at her brother about it)

The problem was when Willis started going "nope, Sal is right AND YOUR RACIST OR IGORNANT IF YOU CANT SEE THAT". Rather then keep it grey, with Sal having both some accuracy and some bitterness-clouded interpretations of her past and her reactions to it he's implying it's very simply this way and allowing for no interpretation of the work to be tolerated but that.

If you want it to be clear, in your work, you should make it clear IN YOUR WORK. Not tantrum on the internet and close down comments because of all the racists (read: People having fair interpretations of the work based on what's been presented so far in the story). Especially that last part. When you close down comments like that, it's hard to keep the same respect for an author.
dethtoll: (Default)

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-01-02 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
the word you want is spurred, not spurned

spurned is what willis did AFTER he stopped being ambiguous
wake_the_dragon: (Default)

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

[personal profile] wake_the_dragon 2014-01-02 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Oh Christ, the comment section. What irritated me more after he closed down the comment section was in the comments of another strip, he got annoyed with the person who asked why he didn't post any links to articles about racism in mixed-race families instead of just linking to people praising his storyline. And in response he kept going on about how the person was asking to links to Fox news articles on why racism doesn't exist, when that was clearly not what the guy asked for at all.
dethtoll: (Default)

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-01-02 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
He didn't just jump to conclusions, he built a fucking jetpack and flew over there. Jesus Christ.
forgottenjester: (Default)

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-01-02 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
His comments sections are almost always a disaster.
dethtoll: (Default)

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-01-02 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
I got banned from the Shortpacked comments.
forgottenjester: (Default)

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-01-02 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? How? You're so fantastic. (I mean that sincerely.)
dethtoll: (Default)

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-01-02 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I made an insensitive comment about the guy who created Doritos Locos Tacos.

In my defense I didn't know he had just died.
forgottenjester: (Default)

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-01-02 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't even know what that is.

But that sucks ball. Eh, well, now I guess you just have a better reason not to read the comments.

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-04 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Some people are just touchy about wishing death on people, even if they already died.

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-02 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm laughing so hard right now

I just...how does that even come up?
kamino_neko: Tedd from El Goonish Shive. Drawn by Dan Shive, coloured by Kamino Neko. (Default)

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

[personal profile] kamino_neko 2014-01-02 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, what Noodles said. It should be noted that the only even vaguely racist comment either of her parents made was their father noting he liked Sal's hair when it was straight (but it had taken more of its natural curl at that point).

He also had that problem with the 'Everybody around Dorothy is a misogynist jackhole' thing. Except, of course, nobody had ever actually been shown making any 'you're a woman, so you're going to give up on your dreams to raise a family' thing she supposedly got from everybody but her parents (the one who came closest was her mother, ironically).
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-01-02 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
I think Willis has problems with his own internal canon not always being put into the story.

I mean, he's the author and I respect the author's headcanon is basically canon, but it seems he puts in subtle references that are at best "maybe this" and expects other people to see "clearly this"

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-02 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Willis has a problem generally with people who disagree with him even somewhat. Sure, there are people he (and others) legitimately have reason to want out of his sites: MRAs, fundies trying to "bring him back," and just plain trolls. To them, when Willis bans them, I say "Good riddance." The trouble is, he doesn't stop there, but bans people and, sometimes, shuts down comments when he gets feedback of the sort that isn't 100% pats on the back. He's also fond of whining on his Twitter and Tumblr about it, posting people's usernames and all.

Really, I'd have been done with his comics long ago, but damn it, I just care about his characters and what happens to them too much.
insanenoodlyguy: (Default)

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-01-02 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
This is something that gets banded about way too much on 4chan, but Willis might have a touch of Autism/Aspergers.

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-02 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
It's not entirely out of the question, but I think on the Internet generally (not just 4chan) people tend to forget that it's quite easy to be a jerk without being on the autism spectrum.

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-02 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
The whole autism insult I thought was more about obsessing over things in an obnoxious manner and then when people call them out on it they get upset and blame on autism than being a jerk?
dethtoll: (Default)

Re: I was rather dissapointed.

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-01-02 10:32 am (UTC)(link)
It doesn't help that he's recovering from a religious upbringing -- that can get your head screwed on the wrong way around, believe you me.