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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-02 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2557 ]


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Re: How do you guys define sci-fi and fantasy?

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2014-01-03 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
The best definition I've come across is Drako Suvin's which says that science fiction uses the sciences and technology to create cognitive estrangement for the reader. Similarly, fantasy uses the arts and humanities to create cognitive estrangement.

In both cases, the relationship between those genres and their chosen disciplines is usually that of the mugger who drags an unsuspecting work of peer research or folklore back into a dark alley for the purpose of knocking it out and taking the wallet for the purpose of identity theft.

To answer specific questions:

Harry Potter: Urban/Contemporary given that it's fundamental themes and conflicts are cribbed from 20th/21st century European racism. I'd say the names to read there are Bull (War for the Oaks), Gaiman (Neverwhere and Graveyard Book), De Lint (Memory and Dream), Lukyanekno (Night Watch, just to get you into the brilliant Day Watch and Twilight Watch), Lauren Beukes Zoo City, and Crowley's Little, Big.

Thor: If you must put a label on it, I'd say Science Fantasy. But mostly superhero which is its own separate sort of thing. Same with Agents of SHIELD. Probably better examples of Science Fantasy is Star Wars.

I'm finding myself reading a lot of Lightspeed Magazine these days, which is online and has a nice variety of both Science Fiction and Fantasy

Other Fantasy sub-genres: Weird (Mieville), Literary (Beagle's Last Unicorn and Lord's Redemption in Indigo, arguably some King and Gaiman as well), Mythic (Tolkien), and Historical (not my thing.)

Science Fiction sub-genres: Post-Apocalypse/Dyslit (with fighting about whether they're the same thing), Hard Space (Niven, Reynolds, Clarke), Cyberpunk (Gibson), Singularity (what happened when cyberpunks got religion), and Philosophical (PKD, Lem, Vonnegut, Le Guin).

Not an exhaustive list.
Edited 2014-01-03 17:13 (UTC)
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Re: How do you guys define sci-fi and fantasy?

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-01-03 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! :D