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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-09 06:50 pm

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Actually now I'm kind of curious about something tangentially related to this. What do countries with compulsory military service do about citizens who are physically unfit for service? Do you have to do some kind of desk job? I ask 'cos I'm disabled and if the draft were still around in the US, I would be laughed out of the physical faster than Steve Rogers.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Most countries give those who don't qualify based on physical or mental disabilities an exemption.
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[personal profile] hwc 2014-01-10 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
In Germany there used to be the Zivildienst (civil service, I guess?). In that case you had to spend the same time in a hospital, nursing home, shelter, or something similar. You're not part of the military, though.
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[personal profile] lex_antonia 2014-01-10 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Not true. Back when military service was mandatory for men, everyone over 18 was sent to a physical assessment (Musterung), and if you were found unfit you'd be excused from serving altogether. No alternative civilian service either.

Now, if you were conscripted and refused military service for moral reasons, you'd have to do Zivildienst instead.

Wikipedia tells me Israel has a similar arrangement for conscientious objectors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherut_Leumi

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I would assume you'd get a desk job? A couple of years ago I had a friend, an Israeli girl who was just starting her military service, and from what she told me, apparently there are many different tracks that you could choose to enter to certain extents. For example, she was going for a desk job, but her brother had been in the air force.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Israel and a number of mandatory service states give an exemption from the required service for those who wouldn't qualify, some require civil service in place of it.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-01-10 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
It's funny, because I once saw this documentary on a boy with Down's syndrome getting into the Isreali army, because he really wanted to and he wanted to be normal. Pretty sure he wasn't allowed to do everything,but yeah.

Generally you will be exempt or assigned duties you can manage.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-10 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
In Singapore, we have mandatory service for guys once they hit 18. AFAIK, you can be exempted if you've got a severe disability of some sort (you/your family just needs to provide the appropriate documentation proving that).

Otherwise, if you've got a physical disability but can still work desk jobs etc, that's where you go (clerkship, etc).

If you've got no physical problems but are just unfit, as in, unused to that level of physical rigour (as determined by a fitness test they put you through), you have to go for a fitness bootcamp before your training/service proper starts.

Exemptions are pretty rare though, afaik - they're pretty good about finding places to put you where you can work within your limits.