[ SECRET POST #2564 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2564 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

And you think "almost all criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic" is an especially nuanced response?

Seriously? Seriously? You're saying it's a complex issue and shouldn't be boiled down to a black-and-white thing. Well, fine. But boiling down a complex issue to a black-and-white one is exactly what you're doing by ascribing criticism of Israel to anti-Semitism.

[233c]

Not really, no.

Are there valid criticisms of Israel? Sure. I've made them myself -- and so have a lot of Jews, Israeli and otherwise. But pretty much everything most western kids parrot is derived from propaganda, because that's how propaganda works.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay. I don't think we're going to get anywhere on this, because it still pretty much seems to me that what you're doing here is still reducing complex issues to black-and-white. But fair enough, we disagree, that's cool. Good luck to you.

[233c]

I'm really not, but thanks for the civil reply.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Actually, saying that most criticism of Israel boils down to anti-Semitism is pretty reductionist. Even if those criticisms are wrong, many/most of them come from legitimately disagreeing with Israel's policies. Sure, there is anti-Semitism and Anti-Semitic arguments mixed in, but that doesn't make up most of the discussion.

[233c]

Allow me to temper that statement, then: Most WESTERN criticism of Israel stemps from anti-Semite arguments made by opposing regional bodies, heavily scrubbed down by the media for Western consumption, and parroted endlessly until enough impressionable Americans believe it.

[(Anonymous)]

da

I really don't know why you're hammering so hard on the America lever here, since America is relatively pro-Israel.

[233c]

America's government is. But Americans != US Gov't.

[(Anonymous)]

Most Americans aren't pro-Arab either

[233c]

I think that's kind of a separate issue, though. Unfortunately I think the majority American viewpoint of Israel and the Arab world is "so far away, who cares, when's the next Lil' Wayne?"

[(Anonymous)]

So, Americans criticize Israel and it's antisemitism, but if they're anti-Arab it's just them being apathetic?

[(Anonymous)]

THANK YOU.