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Voyager: That whole mess with The Void and Janeway basically sulking. Arrrgh that pissed me off so bad.

Quantum Leap: just that fucking last "Sam Beckett never returned home" why the hell would you do that to me???

Donna's fate: yes, I know there were meta reasons she couldn't stay but in the show the character would never have left willingly, but was that SERIOUSLY the best solution you could come up with? It's not like the Doctor hasn't dumped unwilling companions before...Donna could roam about the earth dealing with problems and yelling the Doctor's ear off whenever they ran into each other. She could be like Sarah Jane, who ALSO didn't exactly leave willingly and ended up being the number 1 human for lost aliens to seek out for help.

Well, he actually hasn't dumped any unwilling companions except Susan and Jack. Well, maybe you can include Sarah Jane too, depending on how you look at the fact that he didn't pick her up again after he visited Gallifrey. But no others. The whole "the Doctor will abandon all his companions" thing was really an invention RTD came up with without any canon basis to back it up. Nine times out of ten, the companions were the ones who decided to leave him.

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true, but then not all companions are there for the same reason--some keep saying TAKE ME HOME NOW U TERRIBLE DRIVER (like Teagan), some are just there to see the universe a bit, etc...I agree that "The Doctor will abandon all his companions!!1angst!!1" stuff is rot, but then it IS part of his character right from the beginning that he hates goodbyes. So I bet most companions would feel abandoned right at first, even if they were quite glad to get back to their lives.

I do feel like Sarah Jane and Donna are two who would have stayed with him 'forever'...they both had that relationship where he was their best friend, and Sarah had an insatiable curiosity about the universe (that reporter's mind) that made her not want to get 'stuck on earth', and Donna had an unfulfilling life and low self-esteem so she was all "I'm doing something important with someone who thinks I'm important, why the hell should I leave?"

Ooo, the Void episode was bad. I thin I'd probably take away the episode where she and Chakotay are stuck on that planet because they are sick or something, and she spends the episode freaking out over a storm. Everything that made Janeway awesome was gone for the sake of a romance that never actually ended up happening in canon. Ugh. But the Void episode was bad too. Really, the worst episodes were the ones where Janeway's characterization went off the rails for the sake of a stupid story.

And yes to Donna. So much yes.

Heh, I didn't think that ep was THAT bad (but then, tiny me shipped it!) to be removed entirely, but def. there were parts that could be removed. I liked how Chakotay was all "Cool, nature, we can do this" and Janeway was all "Give me back my technology, I can't believe I'm stuck here on this dirtball, also SCIENCE!!" And I could believe that if she'd been brought around to accepting the inevitability of their fates that she would be willing to act on an attraction she never would have before. Also, seeing Tuvok as captain was cool!

But no to the parts where they sent Janeway "off the rails". I loved the fact that from the beginning they allowed Janeway to be both a captain and a woman--she's The Boss but she has a maternal doting quality about her at times, she can do hardline negotiations with aliens in the middle of the night in a silk nightgown cause why the hell not, that shit's super comfortable as well as pretty. I feel like later they lost that balance and it just went...haywire.

I agree with you both in this thread that Janeway was often inconsistently characterized in a way that sucked. But part of me really liked that the show let her be depressed in a way that seemed believable to me given their circumstances.

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