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White Collar silliness about eyewear.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
OK; this bugs me, but I am crap at making graphics so here goes:

I love Rebecca, she's great and I really like where it seems to be going (I'm a bit behind in my watching, currently on "No Good Deed").
But it bugs the FUCK out of me that her glasses show NO distortion whatsoever, but she still acts as though Neal's face (which is three inches away from her) is invisible without them. Yes, myopia that severe exists, but as I have it I also know that it will freaking SHOW in the thickness and refraction of your glasses. Even with the highest modern plastics available, she'd have a huge level of distortion if that was her level of vision. Even if she were far sighted and not nearsighted, you'd noticed magnification of the eyes if she were at a level where she not only couldn't read or do close work but also couldn't see a face that was pretty much in her face.

It didn't bother me before now because yeah, lots of people wear glasses even for very mild prescriptions like -0.4 or something and with her job she'd want as sharp vision as possible; but having that stupid "Oh THERE you are line" when she puts them back in after waking up in bed with Neal is just FUCKING STUPID considering what they look like on her face.

ALSO I know I'm being an idiot because OBVIOUSLY they're not going to do realistic glasses and distort her face because it's fucking TV, and because it'd be fucking horrible to force the actress to suffer or do GOK when it's not super necessary for the plot. Clearly, they're just doing it for the nerdy girl aesthetic and not to realistically portray a person with vision impairment; it's costume for character description, not character prescription.

BUT IT STILL BUGS THE EVERLIVING FUCK OUT OF ME AND IT'S NOW REALLY HARD TO FINISH THE FUCKING EPISODE WITHOUT TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE HER STUPID LENSES WORK IN HEADCANNON. Maybe she's not what she seems - maybe they're a disguise and she's playing Neal, maybe... OMG I NEED HELP.

yeah, grumpy -10 anon has issues, man.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Same anon:
I just finished Live Feed and - OMGWTF!
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Re: White Collar silliness about eyewear.

[personal profile] tabaqui 2014-01-11 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't been watching WC, but that kind of thing *always* bugs me. I have really bad eyesight - i literally can't read or use my computer without my glasses - but if i woke up and looked around and my SO was getting clothes out of the dresser or in the bathroom washing his face or whatever, i could see him. I could see him if i looked out the window where he was taking the dog out into the yard.

He's be a fuzzy column of colors, but i would know it was HIM.

Re: White Collar silliness about eyewear.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
I'm always bugged by how people on TV are so often are shown to use reading glasses despite being quite young, even though IRL it's older people who more often need reading glasses. Very few people on TV of any age are shown to be nearsighted, although I can write some of it off as people using contact lenses. I know the reading glasses are used to make people look "smart" and "studious" but it's really distracting to me how often it happens. Of course, the glasses also aren't real glasses - they have completely flat lenses and you can see it in the way light reflects off of them. It really pulls me out of the story to see what are obviously fake lenses on reading glasses on a 20-year old on a show where no one ever wears glasses when they don't need to look studious.

Re: White Collar silliness about eyewear.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
Well, a lot of younger people do wear reading glasses if they're farsighted; it's more rare than myopia in young people, but it certainly happens. If it's strong enough that they need them for more than reading, you'll see that their eyes, to you, look magnified. (Obviously, in film, that clue hardly ever exists. In fact, chances are, the actor, costumer, director and writer haven't even THOUGHT about what type of vision the character really has).

But yes, in TV world, nobody is nearsighted unless they are intellectual or a nerd, and nobody female wears glasses and is the lead unless a makeover happens, and NOBODY ever can't use contacts when the makeover happens (aside from the comedic montage of them using them the first time and then magically never having problems again). It's extremely rare for somebody to just be nearsighted without it being part of one of those tropes; for them just to happen to need glasses and that that not MEAN anything about their character.

The reasons are obvious - it is fucking hard to film real glasses. Actors who don't need them have a hell of a time of it - GOK only goes so far and is uncomfortable - and (at least before anti-reflective coatings and modern materials) they are hard to film. The refractions change the shape of eyes and eyes are a huge part of the actors' toolbox. It's also really hard to get actors (whose face is their product) to alter their face without a really good reason - like playing a famous person who wore them, or a part where it's a main plotpoint.

Not to mention, that even in RL a lot of people who don't wear them have ZERO CLUE about how glasses work. People ask me to read things for them because "Oh, you'll be able to see this - you wear glasses," like their a magic vision talisman and I have to remind them, no, with glasses, I have vision EQUAL to theirs. Or, "Come sit in the front so you can see," when, again, glasses mean I can see in the back JUST FINE, now, thanks. (That REALLY bugged me in school when it was a fucking RULE that kids with glasses sat in the front. Grr.)

I've had perfect strangers tell me I shouldn't wear them because they ruin my looks. And I've had people that KNOW me go on about how obviously, if I just ditched those things I'd be able to snag a partner. I've had SEVERAL people feel they had the right to reach out and REMOVE THEM FROM MY FACE and then didn't understand why I got very upset.

And media about glasses ends up reflecting that - glasses in fiction show that a person is a particular TYPE rather than that a person has a particular eye condition. Sexy glasses, librarian glasses, BCGs... pages and pages on TV tropes for what each type of frame "means". and people get used to decoding that costuming language, and damnit, it refilters into RL. So people see me my frames will make a lot of shitty assumptions about me, my character, my sexuality, my personality, etc, and it all SUCKS.

*ahem*

Like I said, I have a few issues.

Also, hey, at least the White Collar example ended up being JUSTIFIED. Disguise glasses!
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Re: White Collar silliness about eyewear.

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2014-01-11 11:08 am (UTC)(link)
While I know nothing about "White Collar", I sympathise about glasses.

I have a left eye that has far worse vision than my right (I need something to be less than 6 inches away to even start to be able to read text through my left eye), so my left glasses lens is a lot stronger. It can be seen if one look at my face (or I look in the mirror) that the lens makes my left eye look slightly smaller than my right.

So in general terms? Yes, one would wish that TV glasses for supposedly severe eyesight problems made the wearer's eyes look a bit off.