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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-10 07:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #2565 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2565 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 11:26 am (UTC)(link)
I think it has more to do with the depression angle than being a parent. I have a daughter almost Buffy's age and I think Giles did the right thing. But I have never experienced depression in myself or in someone that close to me. I think that's more likely to be the reason I think Buffy's behavior needed to change and that Giles' extreme action to make it happen were the right thing to do.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
For a girl with a normal life, sure. But just to try to try a real world example (though it's far from perfect), what if your daughter was a combat veteran who had just been discharged with PTSD? Would your answer still be the same? The situations aren't perfectly analogous, but I think it's comparable.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not even remotely comparable since people close to the combat vet would know to look for signs of PTSD. No one but the audience knew exactly what Buffy had been through and she acted (at that point) more like she didn't want to deal with responsibilities rather than she was drowning in pressure/depression. And PTSD wasn't something most people knew about back then. Even if they had known, they had no reason to suspect she had it. Based on how she acted and what the people around her knew, Giles' actions were reasonable.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-11 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I completely disagree. Giles left AFTER they found out she'd been in heaven - that means that everyone knew what she'd been though at the point he left. And he still left. And they may mot have known about PTSD as a recognized thing, but all knew she'd been through impossible trauma over the last five-six years, to the point she actually went into a catatonic state in season five right before taking her own life to save the world. She is NOT a normal 21 year old with normal 21 year old problems that should have just toughed it out and "got over it." She was a soldier, a warrior, who fought and killed almost everyday from the time she was 16, and who had seen and done some awful things that no teenager should ever have to deal with. And they all expected her to keep ON being that soldier, AND hold down a day job and pay the bills, AND be a parent to Dawn - that would have been rough even without the trauma.

[personal profile] agnes_bean 2014-01-11 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
He didn't leave until after the musical episode. Yes, he came to the decision to do so before Buffy's "I was in heaven" confession, but he still heard that before he left. He saw enough in that one song alone to know what she was not in a good place.
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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2014-01-11 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
The show had portrayed Giles as a father figure to Buffy though so the parent part is relevant.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-01-12 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough. :)

As a college professor, I primarily deal with students who are Buffy's age. I have seen some of them lose parents and siblings and I have seen them become responsible for the financial security of an entire family, and these are things which are truly devastating even for young adults who have a support system in place. When I think of Buffy, she truly has no other adult in her life that she can talk to about things or model herself after or ask questions. It's great that she's got the Scoobies to support her, but that doesn't take the place of relatives or family friends or adults who go to her church or grown up neighbors or who ever that she can lean on. If that makes sense.