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⌈ Secret Post #2566 ⌋

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Re: My first Sherlock Holmes readthrough

[dreemyweird]

I'm happy you liked them! And no, no, these two aren't exceptions. IMO, the vast majority of the stories are brilliant. There are only a couple of them I'm kind of cold towards (as much as I can be cold towards the Canon), The Thor Bridge being one.

The lack of flowery language is to my liking, too: it makes the few descriptive details present so vivid as for them to make a lasting impression on the reader. The color play (blue and various warm shades) in The Copper Beeches is a great example of that. And ACDs laconism is quite astonishing when compared to, say, Stevensons Kidnapped.

I can hardly believe that ACD said Watson "didn't make a single joke", tbh. His narrative is full of humor. Maybe Doyle just wasn't paying attention when writing all the ironic remarks.

Re: My first Sherlock Holmes readthrough

[intrigueing]

Watson's quietly gleeful narrative lollery is the main reason screen adaptations just can't measure up to the canon for me no matter how good they are :) He's just not a frequent zinger-slinger in-dialogue like Holmes. (Or maybe he is but thought it felt weird to write down his own jokes so he just puts them into his narration instead.) My favorite probably being that part in A Study In Scarlet where he not-innocently-at-all enumerates the political sniping in all the different newspapers' coverage of the Lauritson Gardens murder.

ACD is like that one BNF that most fandoms have, the one who willfully misunderstands everything about the canon and repeats their dumb ideas all over the place while complaining about how much it sucks. I wanna go back in time and shake him and try to make him understand that people don't like his stories for being stupid little detective yarns.

Re: My first Sherlock Holmes readthrough

[dreemyweird]

I think putting some direct narration into an adaptation would be a good idea (The Seven-Per-Cent Solution did this, to some extent, and not entirely without success). Or giving the jokes to Watson himself. I really like the "thought it awkward to show off his own sense of humor" theory.

Haha yes :D When he says that Holmes is no more emotional than a Babbage`s calculating machine, it's all like... no, Doyle, you got it all wrong.

Actually, I find it heartbreaking. I always look for proof that Doyle was secretly fond of Holmes. So many bad things happened in his life; I don't want to think that the one thing everyone is so grateful to him for had also been bad.

Re: My first Sherlock Holmes readthrough

[intrigueing]

I always am totally distracted by first person stories that are stated to be written accounts by figuring out how this character was feeling when s/he was writing the story in addition to when s/he was actually doing the actions in the story, so stuff like that always pops out at me ;)

I also find it kind of sad that he died so soon after writing the last stories, and it's clear he didn't care about Holmes at all at that point :( That's also when he started in with some little Rathbone-Bruce-esque little exchanges of nastiness/stupidity here and there, which make it hard to reconcile with The Game (I just say "okay, even though ACD was intending Holmes to be mean here, I'm gonna assume Watson was just repeating Holmes's light-hearted teasing and didn't realize how it came off).

Well, at least to my knowledge he never despised Holmes as personally as Agatha Christie despised Hercule Poirot. Although you're probably more of an expert on that than me ;)

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Doyle didn't like Holmes? Awww, that's too bad :( I've heard of this with a lot of other writers of famous characters and it always makes me sad.

Re: OP

[badass_tiger]

He got kind of bitter about how popular it became, I think. And I think at one point he continued writing only because he needed the money? I'm not too sure about this and it definitely doesn't show, but yeah.