[ SECRET POST #2566 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2566 ⌋

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Comments

[hallokatzchen]

Wait. They're giving a Mexican artist grief for not drawing a Mexican character "Mexican enough"?

The fuck?

[forgottenjester]

Yeeeeaaaaahhhh, tumblr does that. They do it a lot with Carlos. He's apparently never "dark enough".

[hallokatzchen]

Uuuugh...

Every time I hear someone say he's not dark enough or *insert race here* enough, they're giving me the impression that they mean he's not "stereotypical" enough.

That's like when people ask "What are you?" and you tell em, and they're like, "Oh you don't look *insert race here*"

[forgottenjester]

I generally don't know what to think of it and just stay out of it. I just stick to reblogging all Carlos I see.

[kaijinscendre]

I think they want him constantly in a sombrero and talking like Speedy Gonzalaz.

[lynx]

Apparently there are white people out there that think us Latin@s just come in one homegeneous colour palette. It's damn common when it comes to drawing Carlos.

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously. "Not Latino/a enough" just makes me wonder if you've given any actual thought to your social justice. You can't just reblog and fervently agree with whatever looks slightly good.

[lynx]

While I agree that there are certain features that are more typical of our originary nations (be it from the Aztec-Mayan cluster, Taínos, Tupís, Quechuas, Mapuches - and even then, those features vary wildly depending on the nation); and that the huge majority of us will not EVER pass as white (I certainly don't, and I'm quite proud of that!), not even while briefly sighted... There's no such thing as "this is how an authentic Latino looks".

First: Latin America is damn huge. Second: We're mutts. Our firsts nations were colonized and abused by the Spaniards (or Portuguese, French or English), got mixed with them; and then a lot of areas on coastal zones got a big deal of black genes due to the bloody slave trade. And then we got immigrants from Asia (mostly Middle East, Chinese and Japanese colonies) - but also from empoverished whiteys running away from Europe in the XIX century that also contributed a lot--- idk. Cultural and racial identity in Latin America is hard even for us; but on the other hand, we usually dislike being typecasted. Every iteration of Carlos I've seen could plausibly be Latino! And believe me, I've seen every Pantone for his skin color. So hearing every time "he's not dark enough!1!" is quite weird for us.

[blunderbuss]

There's a whole tumblr dedicated to it: http://carlosisnotwhite.tumblr.com/

Now, sure, some of them do show Carlos as a pale-skinned white dude. But some of them are obviously giving him a darker skintone, or are just a black and white sketchs with no shading and they're STILL given the 'Carlos is not white' shit.

And naturally when people ask how in the fuck can someone be the Color Judge of a character with no official art and when latino/latina complain that not everyone is the same shade, they get lectured about white-washing and colourism and how they're not doing it right.

[lynx]

I took a look and was pretty disgusted by the whole thing.

Yes, Prof. Sycamore does not look like a Latino dude. ANY Latino dude. And brownface is not ok.

But there's a lot of fanart on that blog that does not deseve to be there, either because they're uncolored sketches (with Carlos looking non-white despite the lack of colors), or because the mod's monitor must be failing.

I mean. This is how Santiago's Downtown looks and I can assure you that +95% of the people on this pics are recognizably Latin American non-white-passing while having a wide arrange of... variety.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3237/3095596427_e4147e47bc_o.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5204/5353453708_85dc02986e_o.jpg
http://www.silencioseviaja.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/PB030700.jpg
http://www.gfbv.it/2c-stampa/2006/060516-mapu1.jpg <-- Mapuche People protesting for having their land stolen by the state and been driven to reservations since the XIX century.