[ SECRET POST #2567 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2567 ⌋

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[fscom]

10. http://i.imgur.com/zgUZxyC.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Heh, I use it for something similar. My mental issues... Well, they do have an emotional component but that is pretty easy to control. However the hallucinations? Yeah that... Not so much (but I can at least tell when that's what's going on).

Sucks that we have to though.

[(Anonymous)]

I've been getting help for ten years. So far things have just gotten worse

[(Anonymous)]

Yes. I've learned to tell when it's a hallucination, and thankfully the mood swings have never been bad but that's about it. And yes, I have tried, particularly since this cost me the career id always wanted.

I apologize if I sound bitchy, I've just had this conversation so many times it's... A little much, you know?

[(Anonymous)]

Sometimes you try all that "good stuff" and nothing works, or at least nothing works enough. Meds keep me from being suicidal and therapy has given me coping mechanisms to recognise some of my bad episodes, but neither work to stop my emotional meltdowns because my brain is telling me that everyone hates me and I'm doing everything wrong. If I fail to recognise I'm going into a spiral before it's too late to take a mental step back and use a distracting mechanism, there's nothing I can do to stop that spiral.

[(Anonymous)]

DA
There's help for anyone and anything out there. True, but it's simplistic to think that this help is always going to the end-all to problems. So if a mantra like Elsa's actually works then cool, it's not necessarily being fatalistic.

[feotakahari]

Has medication not worked for you?

OP response

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't get rid of the problem completely. And there have been several instances where I was too anxious to go to the doctor to get my script refilled, to begin with, so I've gone on and off my meds quite a few times.

Re: OP response

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, that's one of the best methods out there, but some problems never really go away.

[(Anonymous)]

(Not OP of secret) I'm not saying that at all. That's a sucky excuse. I used "go away" because that's what you used in your reply and it sounded a bit like everything can be cured. It's just that, even with treatment, some things can't. You just deal with them and keep trying.

Re: OP response

[(Anonymous)]

some problems just can't be treated

but there ARE some problems that really don't get better with treatment. You are being really dismissive and a touch 'bootstraps'y.

Re: OP response

[(Anonymous)]

^^^ Not OP.

[caerbannog]

Glad it's helping with you anon (and other anons with the similar posts). I wouldn't want to hedge all my bets on loves, so I hope you can take each day as it comes and hopefully straighten your emotions out a bit. :)

More power to you.

[nyxelestia]

As much as I love the message that people shouldn't bottle things up and or try to be someone you're not, the reality is that sometimes that's the only way to cope with the curvelemons real life throws at you.

You're probably going to get a lot of crap from other people asking if you haven't tried other methods already (actually, looking at the thread, you already are), and unfortunately that is a problem you are going to have to face all your life - people who don't understand that sometimes certain mental health treatments are not available to someone, or that they just don't help the way you need them to. I wish you all the strength it managing to tune out those people and do what you need to in order to help yourself as much as you can.

Re: More power to you.

[nyxelestia]

And suggesting that the OP just missed something or just needs to try harder isn't patronizing? In this case, the alternative is that the OP merely holds back on their emotions, or at least their reactions to their emotions, whichever is your viewpoint (some people differentiate, some don't - case in point the "I'm always angry" Hulk-out scene from Avengers apparently confusing a lot of people).

What you said upthread about how much it bugs you when people fail once or twice and then give up trying to seek treatment without trying more? I understand that, and it bugs me, too. But at the same time, there are people who have tried everything available to them, everything that they can, and still nothing works, so the only answer ends up being to endure and ignore as best as you can until something that does work comes along. Maybe you don't mean it that way (in fact, I hope you don't mean it that way), but most of your comments have come off as patronizing and dismissive of the severity of the OP's problem. That's why I, and some of the other posters on this secret, have taken issue with your comments here.

Re: More power to you.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Thank you.

Re: More power to you.

[(Anonymous)]

you know, if more than one person is telling you that you are being dismissive maybe you should listen.

Re: More power to you.

[nyxelestia]

Herongale and the anon explained a lot of it, so I'm not going to rehash their arguments. I would like to suggest, however, that if you do work in a psychiatric field, then while on one hand you do have invaluable insight that the rest of us laymen can't match, on the other hand your experience will also be heavily skewed in particular directions.

Again, I get where you're coming from. I believe that you genuinely just want to help, and are approaching this the same way you might approach an actual patient or close friends about this same issue in real life. As many others have pointed out, it's just a little sketchy in this context and with this persistence.

I'll also add that a lot of this is projected tones. Whether you mean it to or not, your comments have come off as passive-aggressive. I do not have a mental illness, but surrounded by people who do and often defending them, I've heard a lot of passive-aggressive concern trolling and insistence that they are just exaggerating their problems or simply haven't tried everything* because if they did, they wouldn't be mentally ill. This attitude is dismissive of the fact some people have severe problems that just don't respond to treatment, or compounded problems wherein treating one problem exaggerates another problem (an issue a close friend of mine faces - almost any medication she takes for her mental problems exacerbates issues with her physical health problems, and many treatments she takes for her physical problems create hormone imbalances that further screw up her mental problems).

* = that they can, which is another layer you should be aware of if you live in the U.S. as your profile says - sometimes even if someone hasn't tried "everything", they've tried everything they can afford, and even if there is some treatment out there that can help them, if it's not covered by their insurance then for many people it might as well not exist for all the help they can get from it. Now, we don't know where OP lives so for all we know they live in a country where it's a moot point, but your comments still tend to have an unintended but nasty sting to them when you post with an "are you sure you've tried everything?" attitude - maybe they know very well they haven't and it's because they can't afford some of the other treatment options.