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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-12 03:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2567 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2567 ⌋

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Re: so apparently I'm about to ragequit Sherlock (SPOILERS S3E3 in the comments)

(Anonymous) 2014-01-13 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Out of curiosity, why do you hate Moriarty? Feel free to rant, lol. I'm not a fangirl or anything but I always kinda enjoy the aspect of "There but for the grace of God go I" of the only guy as smart as Holmes is his nemesis. (and in Elementary how she's kinda obsessed with Joan since she beat her, haha! all but writing 'Mrs Moriarty Watson' in her diary, bless her felonious little heart)

Re: so apparently I'm about to ragequit Sherlock (SPOILERS S3E3 in the comments)

(Anonymous) 2014-01-13 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not DW (obviously) but I don't mind Moriarty, I just dislike how Holmes adaptations seem to have such a limited pallet of references. There's a few key points that they always feel they need to hit - Irene Adler, Moriarty, Hounds, etc. And they rarely do anything interesting with those elements. And with most of the canon, they just don't have any time for it. It results in a lot of adaptations feeling kind of same-y and it means they don't get into a lot of stories and parts of the canon that I love at all. It feels like they're not adapting the Holmes canon, they're adapting the public perception of the Holmes canon. And in some ways it's worse in Sherlock specifically because they throw out tons of references to the canon but only as references - it's like they're just wasting them.

Re: so apparently I'm about to ragequit Sherlock (SPOILERS S3E3 in the comments)

(Anonymous) 2014-01-13 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
It's not that Moriarty is bad -- he's frickin' awesome, but he's not the be-all end-all of what Sherlock Holmes is supposed to be about. He's not, like, the Joker or Lex Luthor, who never goes away and is always there, his arc is very closely tied up in one specific event -- Holmes faking his death -- and after that happens, Moriarty really doesn't have a purpose anymore.

To be honest, Holmes having an archenemy who continues indefinitely and overshadows his whole career is rather minimizing. Moriarty's dark-mirror effect works perfectly well posthumously.
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Re: so apparently I'm about to ragequit Sherlock (SPOILERS S3E3 in the comments)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-01-13 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
The guys upthread have more or less nailed it. I enjoy ACD's Moriarty. He's this cheesy-ish, a little too omnipotent to be believable (but still balancing just on the edge between plausible and implausible) but nevertheless creepy antagonist. He is like salt in a dish. And, just as there is only a pinch of salt in a dish, there's only one story where Moriarty is explicitly present. One out of sixty, let that sink.

What do the creators of the adaptations do? They grab their bag of salt and dance around, throwing handfuls of salt in their damn macaroni. Quite naturally, the food becomes quite inedible. STAHP with cheesiness. Do you seriously think that ACD's stories would have been improved if the poor guy made Moriarty commit all the crimes Holmes solves? No? Then why do you think that out of your stupid n episodes n/2 should contain Moriarty? HOW COME in 1954 Sheldon Reynolds could film a 29-episode adaptation without mentioning Moriarty once, but in 2013 you cannot make an adaptation without SHUTTING UP ABOUT THE DAMN MORIARTY?

I'm sick of omnipotent omnipresent archnemeses. I'm sick of Irene-the-love-interest-and-simultaneously-SURHPRISEHH-MORIARTY. GO AWAY. I just want some humane, interesting antagonists who were present in abundance in the Holmes stories. I want to see the Rucastles. I want to see Ryder. I want to see the dog from COPP GIVE ME THE DOG. I'll take this dog over Moriarty in no bloody time at all.

haha sorry I've got a bad case of feelings