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Can I say one of the things I quite like about Clint/Coulson is that I find that Natasha is very rarely turned into The Terrible Person, or otherwise crapped upon, for the sake of the ship. Sometimes she's a bit too much of the cheerleader, but mostly she's just Clint's best friend and one of Coulson's top spies, and I am A-OK with that. (And sometimes with an ot3.)

And with Avengers fandom in general. I've been out for awhile, but it seems I remember Pepper being cool even if she wasn't with Tony as there was stuff where she was awful. Not 100% ideal, but better than most fandoms. (My gold standard for "how much can a fandom irrationally hate the 'Other Woman'" will always be Releena from Gundam Wing.)

Oh it is pretty good! They're just two of my three favourite characters so I can't stand it when an otherwise goodfic has them being turned into cliche "women in the way". I'd prefer if they'd just ignore them all together.
Natasha, though, certainly gets the better end of it! Peppe gets enough of "over controlling can't handle Iron Man gets up and leaves Tony forever no friendship nothing" that I want to frown. :(

_{Also she doesn't have a figurine. I don't even collect figurines but I want a Pepper! /firstworldbreakingintocollectionproblems}

Ugh, I hate it when Pepper is painted as the bad guy for not being able to handle Tony.

Like. In what universe? In what universe is someone too controlling and demanding for not being able to handle being in a long-term relationship with an unstable adrenaline-junkie genius with PTSD and a budding substance abuse problem. Like, I love Tony, and I think he and Pepper are the sweetest thing (except sometimes when I like Tony and Bruce, and Tony/Cap are just 616 canon in all but name, for pity's sake). But seriously? Being in a relationship with Tony would be a massive, life-consuming challenge, and require accepting a hell of a lot of problems as "price of admission." It's positively heartwarming when he gets a relationship with someone who can do that, but it certainly isn't even remotely unreasonable for someone to decide that no, this is just Too Much.

That's what pisses me off so much when Pepper gets shorted. There is a perfectly reasonable way to move her slightly to the left if she's in the way of your slash ship. It's totally plausible for her to love Tony, but just need to not be in that relationship with him.

I think it speaks a bit to how young a lot of fic writers are. When you're younger, you figure someone has to be the "bad guy" for a relationship not to work. But eventually you learn that sometimes there are bad guys, and sometimes there are just two people who do like each other a whole lot, who are perfectly nice, but just don't work together as life partners, for whatever reason.

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