[ SECRET POST #2569 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2569 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Little Mermaid]


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03.
[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Team Fortress 2 and The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert]


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05.
[Fresh Meat]


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[Attack on Titan / Shingeki no kyojin]


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[Skin Horse]


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08.
[Jon Richardson/Sarah Millican]


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[Elementary]


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[Saint Young Men]


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[Game of Thrones]


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[Arrested Development]















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Comments

[ketita]

tbh at this point I'm finding a lot of Eruri just as formulaic as the Ereri, only with a lot more kink.

Ereri is basically "cute younger slightly-ragey dude in lust with older deadpan sort of jerkish guy".
Eruri is "tsundere just waiting to be dominated with control freak perv who is huge and did we mention huge wink wink"

The irony is that I actually like both pairings (and even write for both, though not kink and not smut and mostly canonverse so that tells you how much popularity I can expect, haha), but at this point I don't see that Eruri is 'better' than Ereri in terms of quality.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with you that both pairings have a great deal of generic fic, but I just haven't seen any very well-written, thoughtful, and in-character fic for Ereri that I do come across in Eruri. Of course there is just so much Ereri that I'm possibly passing it over. But I just have not come across it. (I'm also admittedly picky about Eren's characterization, as he's my favorite character, but still.)

[ketita]

I agree with you on the characterization, and I myself am picky about it, especially with Eren. I think tbh that part of the reason that Erwin/Levi come off as more IC is because there's less characterization for them in canon, so you've got a lot of leeway that comes off as IC to people. Unlike Eren, who's got a lot more characterization and is harder to get right imo.
So I think that Eruri and Ereri aren't even judged on the same scale, because in canon Erwin's kind of a minor character - even more minor than Levi, who's had more scenes on his own or with Eren.
So Ereri writers have a more difficult time of it in the first place, imo.

Besides, like I said, I've seen so much random-kink-eruri at this point that I think that its claim to quality is rapidly going down the drain.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with anon above that there's of course, badfic in every pairing, but haven't seen the same kind of thoughtful, solid, mature characterization I've seen in Eruri fic in Ereri fic. On the calibre of say, Audacity and Carthage's BDSM AU. In that kink is not just for ~hot porn~ and very much part of their characters.

I'm a mainly canon person, so it discounts most AUs for me.

Mostly, it's hard to reconcile the age and power difference in Ereri for many people I think, which results in lots of OOC. I think they work great as mentor/pupil (or alternately hot D/s pet dynamics but ahem) in fic though

[(Anonymous)]

I personally love it in fic when Levi is just Eren's mentor, or his older uncle, or something of the sort, and it just doesn't jump into straight out slash. I'd honestly love to see more of that

[ketita]

I will be honest. BDSM is not part of their characterization. It's pure, 100% fanon. It's fanon that's fucking everywhere, to the point where it's almost impossible to find non-BDSM eruri, but it's nothing more than fan characterization. This isn't canon, and it's gotten to the point where it colors almost every written interaction between Levi and Erwin.

I'm not going to start tearing apart fics one by one because that's not the point, but I think that when two BDSM fics are hailed as "the best the ship has to offer" that says a LOT about how far from canon we've gotten with two characters who are not actually a BDSM relationship. It's nice for kink, but ultimately, it's still twisting their characters.

If you wanted me to rec eruri, I've got other fics I like much better, and which I think are much truer to the characters. People just don't notice anymore because BDSM Eruri has become entrenched in fanon.

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, I didn't say that. I said, that what you say as "random kink fic" is not random at all and actually has much to do with their characterization (in the fic)

And "BDSM" as an umbrella term is not accurate (I'm a pedantic ass) but I'd be hard-pressed not to see any D/s-ish vibes between the two. And, this was way before I read any fics. Audacity is not a "BDSM fic", it's a fic with D/s themes and vibes.

It might be popular fanon now but it's still based on what little we've seen of them unlike pure-as-the-snow fluffy Ereri.

You just don't like kink and that's fine. But at least even if it's 100% fanon (which I disagree), it's still far better written than the most popular Ereri fics.

[ketita]

Uh, in canon, what we know is that Levi trusts Erwin a lot, and Erwin convinced Levi to join the Corps. I'm ignoring the spin-off for a moment 'cause most of the fics got started before the spin-off began.

I don't think that D/s has a monopoly on trust, so I'm not sure where all these obvious D/s vibes are coming from. Heck, I remember the days before D/s took over the pairing and there was some good stuff there that was pretty darn well characterized, but nowadays people "can't not see the D/s", like you said. tbh it's not that I mind kink, it's just that I've been hard pressed lately to find anything but and I've gotten burnt out on it.

Either way, my point is that the high horse of canonicity of eruri is no longer relevant.

[(Anonymous)]

Please link me those good stuff that you thought was pretty well characterized! Not being snarky, genuinely asking.

Fair enough, my other fandom's ship has... a lot of well-written fic, but kink is lean pickings.

[ketita]

Hmm, I don't really keep lists so much, but this one's one of my favorites: taking over this town (they should worry). It's from the kink meme, but one of those non-kinky kinks.

Honestly I can't really think of much right now - most of my eruri bookmarks are just levi topping because I have a hell of a time finding any of that, so I save it for when I get frustrated and need a change XD
I'll look around for some more.
Ironically, I've been thinking of ereri fics I could rec, since people are always going on about how there aren't any good things.