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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-15 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2570 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2570 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[The Lying Game]


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03.
[Hobbit movies, LOTR movies, Tolkien]


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04.
[Perry Mason]


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05.
[Carnivale]


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06.
[Downton Abbey]


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07.
[BBC Sherlock]


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08.
[Lee Pace]


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09.
[Virtue's Last Reward]


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10.
[Deep Space 9]


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12.
[Elementary]














Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 040 secrets from Secret Submission Post #367.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-16 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
I just don't get why people can't see that it isn't even ABOUT Elementary, exactly… the criticism of any potential romance in this one show being homophobic, I mean. It's this show AS IT EXISTS IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL THE OTHER SHOWS (not just Sherlock Holmes shows, but ALL shows!) AND OTHER SHERLOCK CANONS which would make this problematic. In a different world where gay relationships were portrayed more frequently and with much more variety, this wouldn't even be an issue… individual creative people should feel free to tell the stories they want to tell, and without a larger context to worry about, it wouldn't even be problematic!

For me, if Elementary goes down the route of having Joan and Sherlock become an item, it by definition becomes problematic. But that doesn't mean to me that they shouldn't do it… it's just something that writers need to understand going in, knowing that they will offend some of their audience and disappoint even more of them, and decide if that is worth the risk. It's a lot like the Bechdel test; I never think that people should AIM to write stories specifically to "beat" the Bechdel test: people should tell the stories that are in their heart to tell, period. But I DO think there needs to be more opportunities in Hollywood and in the official publishing world for people who tell different, less problematic stories. I don't want them to shy away from gay characters "because some of the audience will be offended," because they sure as hell don't shy away from portraying bigoted characters, regardless of whether the audience will be offended or not. I want Hollywood to respect the audience and be fearless about telling all KINDS of stories, including those which would be offensive to conservative audiences.

Anyway, again. The thing about Elementary in specific that would make this a doubly disappointing move is that the writers already PROMISED it wouldn't happen. Once you make promises to the audience, it's really shitty to go back on those promises. But EVEN THEN, if it turns out that this is the story they feel they have to tell, they should still go for it, and risk offending their audience. But I also think fans would be completely justified in being pissed off and dropping the show altogether. Dropping problematic bullshit just because it's problematic is a viewer's right, and shouldn't be criticized as being a SJW thing.