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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-15 06:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2570 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2570 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Lying Game]


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[Hobbit movies, LOTR movies, Tolkien]


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[Perry Mason]


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[Carnivale]


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[Downton Abbey]


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[BBC Sherlock]


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[Lee Pace]


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[Virtue's Last Reward]


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[Deep Space 9]


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[Elementary]














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(Anonymous) 2014-01-16 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
The strange thing to me is, if I saw these characters as a slightly irrational and volatile and mysterious separate species, always acting in relation to and opposition to men, according to the dictates of our gender, I'd be every bit as irritated by it as you are. And to be fair, I can see how the series' Irene Adler conforms to that pattern, and she did irritate me.

The reason that Mary, Molly, Sherlock's mother, Lady Whoever, Mrs. Hudson, and the girlfriend from this episode don't bother me is that they don't feel to me as if they're being written as a mysterious Other. Mrs. Hudson and Molly feel authentic to me, like women who are displaying mannerisms and defense mechanisms that come from being socialized into, and having to negotiate, feminine gender role presentation when it doesn't necessarily accord with their core personalities. And Mary and the minister, it seemed to me, were written just like the male characters. If you'd flipped all the genders, you wouldn't have had to change anything except some pronouns. I didn't think, anyway.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-16 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair enough. I'm glad they work for you. For me, I find the women so jarring, which sadly annoys me, I just wanna enjoy the show.