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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-18 03:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #2573 ]


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dreemyweird: (austere)

Re: "Pedophilia is a sexual orientation, not a disease." - quotes

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-01-18 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Paedophilia is not a sexual orientation because sexual orientations tell you about the kinds of sexes/genders you are attracted/not attracted to, not about anything else.

The fact that paedophilia is (partially?) genetically determined does not make it a sexual orientation. It makes it a genetic disorder. If somebody were to discover with certainty that schizophrenia occurs only in people with certain gene combinations, it would not have meant that schizophrenia is suddenly and magically a normal thing instead of a mental illness.

If the research you are citing is trustworthy and all the similar researches shall give about the same results, I'm perfectly fine with thinking that paedophilic behaviour is a result of the combination of a certain genetic disorder and the individual's willingness to commit such a crime. Should help be provided to such individuals? Of course. Should they be considered "normal"? No. The "social stigma" can be removed no more than in the case of mentally ill people who tend to behave violently and are a danger to those around them. It is not a matter of stigma so much as it is a very real problem that has to be dealt with in order to remove the danger. That is to say, while of course people shouldn't be judged for the behavioural tendencies they are born with, nobody is going to be comfortable around potentially violent folks. We already have a precedent, in this sense paedophilia as a biological trait is nothing new. Treat them as we would treat any other person with a disorder of a similar kind.

The degree to which paedophilia should be perceived as such a disorder (and the danger "potential paedophiles" present to the society) is a matter of further research, though. It's not like I'm qualified to say anything meaningful on the matter.
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Re: "Pedophilia is a sexual orientation, not a disease." - quotes

[personal profile] sarillia 2014-01-18 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
These are pretty much my thoughts too. I wish people would stop trying to turn things into sexual orientations when they aren't. I agree with the rest too but this is just what I'm stuck on because it's more relevant to my life.
agentcthulhu: knitted yellow-green cthulhu in black suit and sunglasses (Default)

Re: "Pedophilia is a sexual orientation, not a disease." - quotes

[personal profile] agentcthulhu 2014-01-20 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Paedophilia is not a sexual orientation because sexual orientations tell you about the kinds of sexes/genders you are attracted/not attracted to, not about anything else.

This. Thank you for hitting the nail on the head and put to words the biggest problem I had with the first article. The researcher's definition for sexual orientation seem to be "something that induces sexual arousement in a person." By that definition, what is the difference between sexual orientation and sexual fetish? If someone is aroused by people's bare feet, that person's sexual orientation does not magically become podophilia.

[W]hile of course people shouldn't be judged for the behavioural tendencies they are born with, nobody is going to be comfortable around potentially violent folks. We already have a precedent, in this sense paedophilia as a biological trait is nothing new. Treat them as we would treat any other person with a disorder of a similar kind.

That's a reasonable proposal, treating violent pedophiles like other violently disturbed persons.

I also agree with your last line. Hopefully, with more research and understanding of pedophilic behavior and causes, it will become acceptable for people to admit to being pedophiles and seek help to manage their actions.