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Sounds like a flimsy justification for scumbags to scumbag. Nope. Rocket them to the sun, thanks.

Good thing what you think it sounds like doesn't matter, because there's a very large body of work indicating it's the truth against angry manchildren like you.

I get that people like to argue with me and I'm more than happy to oblige them most times, but is this really the subject you want to take the opposite stance from me for?

What exactly do you think the 'opposite side' is in this case.

Like do you honestly believe anon is suggesting paedophilia is a-okay and a great time? Or do you think they're allowing the tiniest bit of nuance, which actually allows you to understand and deal with paedophilia, when currently it's political poision to do anything meaningful which just continues the cycle of child rape.

What nuance is there? Pedophiles are pedophiles. Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation, it is a sickness, and we as a society are awfully lenient with it.

Besides, I don't have to take seriously anyone who calls me a "manchild" because I think pedophiles are scum.

With the greatest due respect, the fact that you can with a straight face claim that society is awfully lenient with society shows that you're too invested beyond reason.

Society is exactly set up to discourage peadophiles from seeking any kind of help, having any kind of rehabilitation, or functioning as a member of society - which leads to what outcome do you think.

And it is almost certainly an orientation, one that is also a mental illness, but still an orientation (in functions more like an orientation than mental illness as classically defined, it only falls into the dsm because it is by it's very it leads to "clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.")

Pedophiles can NOT function as members of society, and most of them are beyond help or rehabilitation.

Pedophilia is not an orientation. Period. Making that argument is dangerous and wrong, because it lends ammo to anti-LGBTQ activists who wish to draw a line between pedophiles and LGTBQ people.

Based off what, your thorough understanding of the meta studies out there? If anything the opposite is true. I would imagine we have a very percentage of non-practicing peadophiles, and a large number of paedophiles who've 'intergrated' themselves in the classical sense with the wife, 2.5 kids and dog except for the fact they are consuming child porn, or raping children. Which makes you wonder about the number who do the former without the latter. With the right properly identified and targetted resources you can rehabilitate a decent number, even if given it's nature as an orientation it's almost going to be an emotional sword of damocles that they will have to live with tucked away at the back of their subconcious.

Big caps doesn't really change this.

And what people may or may not do with facts is not really my concern, and I don't take kindly to a fucking st8 concern troll about what some backwards fucks are going to do with it.

Your premise is flawed. The concept of a "non-practicing pedophile" is nonsense. You're either a pedophile or you're not.

With the right resources we can identify pedophiles regardless of whether they've offended or not and react accordingly. But rehabilitation is not viable because they can not be rehabilitated.

And for the love of fuck stop calling pedophilia an orientation, it is not no matter how many times you repeat yourself. It is a mental sickness, and only a mental sickness. Period. It may be physical, it may be a chemical imbalance, but it is a mental sickness and history has shown that there's only one cure for it.

Also, "st8 concern troll" what does that even mean

You have an academic literally quoted in the post that kicked off this discussion, and no matter how much you may stamp your foot that doesn't really stop them being there, or their work being highly respected (it's a name I've come across, whilst flipping through a mates research as he had an interest in CAIT, and most of the rest backed up this perspective).

Like you are transparently factually wrong about this. So at this point, either put up, or shut up.

And I would've thought that "str8 concern troll' would be pretty self explanatory. I'm not particularly happy about some straight fuck trying to tell me that my opinions are wrong because omg what if backwards fucks use it to attack GLBT individuals.

Should have put that R in there, because at first I thought you were attacking my nationality.

For the record I'm not exactly straight either? But do go and be indignant.

This. Anybody showing tendencies of pedophilia need to be euthanized for the sake of humanity.

Thing is, I don't know if I'd go that far. People who commit actual child rape or participate in child porn should be beaten until they shit their spleens and then bulldozed into the sea, but confirmed pre-offenders should just be removed and relocated IMO. We remove other people with mental sicknesses who are a danger to themselves or others, why are we saying "oh we should be more understanding of pedophiles?" It's perfectly possible to learn about pedophilia from an institution, we don't need these people running loose.

I'm not sure you fully appreciate how high the bar is to get someone submitted to a secure unit due to mental illness.

(spoiler, incredibly - they pretty much need to be a constant and continual threat to themselves or others, and not 'well they might' - the risk needs to be immediate and apparent)

What you're suggesting is more akin to locking up all paranoid schizophrenics.

Pedophiles are by definition a threat to children. Bar cleared.

How the hell would you even determine if someone MIGHT do something? You are punishing people for a crime they have not committed. If that is the case, we should take all children away from their parents because statistically a child is most likely going to be harmed by their parent.

Pedophilia isn't a crime, though. It's a mental sickness that leads to crime.

The problem is, you're right, at this point finding pedophiles boils down to thought crime -- witness how we put people on sex offenders lists for fucking their 16 year old girlfriends at 18. In general mental health care in America and a lot of other places is shit, and we have a really strong stigma about mental illness here especially. If these factors were changed we'd be able to more easily identify potential offenders, who do exhibit certain signs and symptoms, and get them the treatment they need. The treatment is institutionalization, not prison. Either way they're removed from society.

Ill is just one of those people who think it's perfectly fine to leave a fully loaded gun around children, and it shouldn't be dealt with until someone gets hurt. You just can't reason with people as ignorant as he is.

What other mental illnesses require everyone to be locked up?

Do we need to lock up all paranoidschizophrenics?

Who else?

Are there medications that help pedophiles not have the urge to sexually assault children? Are there medications that rapists can take that will stop them from having the urge to rape innocent people? Are there medications that will stop people from wanting to sexually assault animals? No? Then that's why.

And no, plastering a label on a pedophile and having them skip off to be around children is not a good idea. It will NEVER be a good idea. The lives of those children outweighs the poor, poor people who want to sexually assault children. And yes, wanting to have sex with children will always be considered rape, as they can. not. consent. Leaving a loaded gun around children and saying, "WELP, THERE'S A CHANCE NOTHING BAD WILL HAPPEN :D", is the worst possible thing you could do.

Yes. Like what, don't attempt rhetorical questions when you don't know the answer.

And you've dodged my question, what other mental illnesses require people to be locked up merely for having them. And your argument works equally as well for any other mental illness which can prove harmful to those around them.

If you're so fucking smart why don't you explain it to the class, then?

BTW your pedophilia apologism all up and down this thread is gross.

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So as long as they don't show it.

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