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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-21 06:39 pm

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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2014-01-22 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Can we get some context for this, OP? Who's Camicaze and why are they awful?

I do agree Astrid haters deserve to cry.
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(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Camicazi is a character from the book series that the HTTYD is (very loosely) based on. She was left out of the movie, along with everything else that is good about the books.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Or terrible you mean.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
So what's the difference between the two of them?
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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-01-22 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Camicaze? The fuck kind of name is that?

The sequel will be badass though.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
A stupid way of spelling of kamikaze, I think.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-01-22 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
A Viking character's name a misspelling of the Japanese word for Divine Wind? That's the stupidest thing I ever heard.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Just throwing it out there because that's what it looked like to me. Not sure if it is but I wouldn't be suprised if it was.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-01-22 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Good guess, Anon. I just looked it up and according to Wikipedia you're right.

It's still a stupid name though. Astrid is much better.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
For a series that has characters named Hiccup and Fishlegs and Snotlout, I hardly think that Camicaze is any stranger.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2014-01-22 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
Those are perfectly serviceable as names - though they're more likely as acquired names than birth names (though it's not unlikely to go from the former to the latter) - they're descriptive of a quality, which is the origin of many names (others are declarative statements, like 'God is good'), even if, in English, most of the common names have gotten very removed from their original meaning.

Camicaze doesn't mean anything, unless you take it as a non-standard transliteration of Japanese, which makes no sense in the setting.

Astrid also doesn't fit in the setting, but has the advantage of being not-uncommonly used as a name in English, so doesn't stand out.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Not exactly "crying into my cheerios", as you put it, but I don't think I've ever been this pissed off over an adaptation of a series of silly children's books.

Camicazi is fucking awesome and y'all haters can suck it.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Why are you pissed at the film adaptations? Never read the books myself so would you mind explaining?

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Because they are nothing like the books. At all. If they'd changed the names of the characters and called it something other than "How to Train Your Dragon", I would probably would have loved it! But they didn't, so I went into this movie expecting something completely different and ended up highly disappointed.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Oh boo hoo welcome to the world of film adaptions. Rule 1 Never Expect the Movie to be Remotely Like the Book. Rule 2: View Adaptions as Their Own Separate Story. Rule 3: Admit that Nothing you Love Will Ever Have as Bad of an Adaptation as Avatar: The Last Air Bender

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Rule 3: Admit that Nothing you Love Will Ever Have as Bad of an Adaptation as Avatar: The Last Air Bender

omfg PREACH. It's like M. Night made it terrible on purpose.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
"Admit that Nothing you Love Will Ever Have as Bad of an Adaptation as Avatar: The Last Air Bender"

As a fan of the Catwoman comics, I beg to differ.

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Did you know the author of the books disagrees with you?

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
I got into the books after the movie and became retroactively pissed that Camicaze was left out. She's so much more interesting than Astrid.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
TIL these movies were based on books

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Is there really wank about stuff like this? Aren't the original books meant for really young children? Who the hell are all these adults who have read these books aimed at 5 year olds and are getting pissed off about stuff like this?

I could kind of understand it if the books were like 20 years old and it was adults who grew up with them getting angry, but considering the earliest one was made in 2003, and Camikaze didn't appear until the third book in 2005, that's clearly not the case!

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
The books aren't aimed at 5-year-olds, they're aimed at 11-year-olds. I was 11 years old in 2005.
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Was it ever NOT Stormfly in the movie-verse?

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-01-22 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, I know the name wasn't mentioned in the first movie, but all the short movies and the entire TV show have the name Stormfly. I'm pretty sure it doesn't get much more official than that.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-22 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
think about it; would there really have been time to introduce an off-islander like Camicazi in the movie? no. I love both Camicazi and Astrid and I'm glad they made the decision to not include her in the movie, because it would've derailed the script.

instead, I have headcanon that Hiccup and Camicazi are still friends and have been since they were kids considering both of their parents are chiefs and they would've hung out at Things. she's just away with her mother doing Bog gal things while the movie series takes place :3