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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-25 03:42 pm

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Re: Islam

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt

It seems to me - from the outside looking in - that the divide between Sunni and Shia could broadly be compared to the distinction between Orthodox and Catholic Christianity, in the sense that at this point a lot of it has to do with history and cultural and ethnic affiliations. It often seems it's more a result of where you live and what your ethnicity is and what language you speak than of any really serious theological differences. Do you think that's a valid analogy, or is it incorrect?
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Re: Islam

[personal profile] badass_tiger 2014-01-26 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Note that any answer I give is obviously going to be somewhat biased because although I don't think of myself as a Sunni Muslim, it's only because I don't want to apply a label that would separate myself from other Muslims, but to all extents and purposes, I am a Sunni Muslim.

I don't know very much about factions in Christianity, but Sunni v Shiah is not about cultural differences or anything like that. While it may come from cultural differences when, say, a child is born into a family that follows Shiah Islam, but like I said above, it's a political faction. You choose to be in it the same way people choose their political parties. I guess it can be the same in a lot of ways, but there's still a difference. So I wouldn't put it that way at all.

Re: Islam

(Anonymous) 2014-01-26 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Psst, Orthodox isn't the one you want. I think you mean Protestantism and Catholicism. The various types of Catholicism have "Orthodox" in their name. [Ex. Roman Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, etc.]

Re: Islam

(Anonymous) 2014-01-26 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Er.... don't believe so. The Orthodox churches (Russian, Greek, and others) are different from the Roman Catholic church. Russian Orthodox and Greek Orthodox are not 'Catholic' in the specific sense the Roman Catholic church is, and Roman Orthodox isn't a thing; Russian and Greek Orthodox churches are in communion with each other but very, very explicitly not in communion with the Roman Catholic Church.

You can tell because there actually are a bunch of Eastern Catholic churches - distinct from the Latin Roman Catholic Church but part of the same hierarchy - and they're very specifically separate, other churches than the Orthodox churches are. The Bulgarian Orthodox Church and the Bulgarian Catholic Church, for instance, are two distinct, different entities - the first one is Orthodox and in communion with the other Orthodox churches, the second one is Catholic and in communion with the Roman Catholic Church.

The Protestant Reformation is a separate, other thing that split off from Catholicism in the 16th century, for different reasons - Orthodox and Catholic Christianity split about 500 years earlier.

Re: Islam

(Anonymous) 2014-01-26 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Catholic and Orthodox are different. The Orthodox Churches do not accept the authority of the Catholic Pope.

Re: Islam

(Anonymous) 2014-01-26 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
It's definitely more analogous to Catholicism and Protestantism... BUT ONLY IF we're talking about Catholic and Protestant nation-states/political entities, like how the Protestant Dutch decided they didn't want to be part of the Catholic Holy Roman Empire.

The Reformation and Counter-Reformation might seem like a religious thing (and it is, being the reason why the people who practice those faiths do it the way they do; same for the Sunni/Shia divide), but they were also definitely political in nature. /drive-by history nerdery