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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-25 03:42 pm

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Re: Russia (seems like we're doing countries)

(Anonymous) 2014-01-25 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it actually as homophobic a country as we tend to see online? Is it dangerous to be out?

Also, I have a friend that grew up in Russia but came to America and married an American man. Her mother has come over to visit twice in the past five years, but her sister, in her 20s, can never seem to get a visa/pass to leave the country. They say it's because the country fears the younger members defecting and they don't want to lose citizens. They're afraid that if she leaves she won't come back. Is this in any way an accurate assessment based on your experience or is her sister just really unlucky in her attempts to get a passport or whatever she needs?

Re: Russia (seems like we're doing countries)

(Anonymous) 2014-01-26 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
It is quite homophobic, and it is dangerous to be out in some areas (small rural ones, specifically, or in small towns) - there's every possibility you'll be bullied or even beaten up. But in Moscow and Saint Petersburg, few people actually give a damn about your sexual orientation. Gays are kinda accepted (they still face discrimination, just waay less of it than, say, the LGBTQ people in some Smallshittown).

The laws, though, have almost no bearing on people's daily lives. It isn't like "it's illegal to be gay" or "you can be punished for your orientation". In theory, yes, the possibility is there. In practice, it never happens.

They say it's because the country fears the younger members defecting and they don't want to lose citizens. They're afraid that if she leaves she won't come back. Is this in any way an accurate assessment based on your experience or is her sister just really unlucky in her attempts to get a passport or whatever she needs?

Unless she stirred some serious political shit up, she should have zero problems with going out of the country to visit somebody. There's no iron curtain. It may happen in some individual cases that the officials do not let you in or out of the country (refer to the Natalia Morar' case - she couldn't return to Russia because of her journalistic activities), but these are exceptions, and they have to do with political/social conflicts. If you write something anti-government, this may happen. Otherwise, no. Certainly not because you are a youth who can "run away" to another country.

Besides, there's no "pass" that enables you to leave Russia (unless we're talking about the so-called "foreign passport", which are issued to every Russian citizen without exception).

HOWEVER, there are visas that have to be given to people in order for them to visit countries that require visas. And the process of issuing visas can be motherfucking painfully slow. Or it may not happen at all. Mostly because of bureaucracy, queues, and general inefficiency. I think that might be your friend's sister's problem. Maybe they were talking about the whole "iron curtain" deal jokingly? Or were referring to a mindset rather than an actual official policy? That would make sense.