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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-27 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2582 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2582 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-28 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I don't blame you, anon. He's hot. And honestly? I don't even care that the characters could be related. :P

(Anonymous) 2014-01-28 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I feel bad that it makes it hotter
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-01-28 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I never read the books. I watched the film and sort of liked it. Totally in it for the pretty people and shameless escapism.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-28 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
You weren't shitting me, shitmaker. These statements of yours are true.
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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-01-28 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
That man's face looks like someone put their hands on the sides of his head and squeezed. It's freaking me out. 0.o
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[personal profile] queerwolf 2014-01-28 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I read the first three books before I had ever heard of the controversy with Cassie Clare. Haven't read any others. In any case, their relationship was actually my least favorite thing about the books.
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[personal profile] inkdust 2014-01-28 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Same for me, except their relationship was my favorite thing, haha. I think in some ways I'm very stereotypical as a reader/viewer.
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[personal profile] queerwolf 2014-01-28 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I hardly ever like the "main" pairing of anything. There are exceptions, of course, but I usually end up loving secondary/background characters or plots more.
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[personal profile] jaydestarlight 2014-01-28 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
i disliked clary/jace as well; all of the drama related to them annoyed me so much.
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[personal profile] dancing_clown 2014-01-28 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Is there documented plagiarism in City of Bones? Of work the author hadn't previously written herself? Because unless there is and its the best kept secret ever to the copyright holders she's infringing upon, be honest and say you won't read these books because you hate Cassandra Claire because of decade old issues.

I don't read her either, because I don't think she's a good writer, but I hate when people dress their grudge up like it's a mighty moral stance.

[personal profile] escriboconundedo 2014-01-28 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
i think for some people, the fact she plagiarised at all is enough to make them nit want to support her, even if she didn't do so with her cirrent works.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-28 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
I think the problem is that she got so famous and popular due to a heavily plagiarized fic. A lot of people probably feel like she didn't deserve a book deal.

Although, from what little I've seen and heard, I don't envy her - she doesn't seem like a happy person. Of course, since I don't know her personally, I'm probably way off base.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-28 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
yeah i think she ripped off stuff in the past for fanfics (and im sorry i ...dont care about that it sorta sucks but...its fanfic??)
But I do believe her stuff in COB is all original, whether or not its GOOD is up to debate hahaha.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-28 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
" But complicating the matter is that Clare recycled parts of the Draco Trilogy and worked them into her first novel, City of Bones. Fans with long memories will realize that an entire involved backstory of the main character Jace is a word-for-word copy of the backstory Clare gave Draco in her fanfiction; and the final line of the book is—wait for it—a line that was originally used to describe the deep love that Harry and Draco had for one another. In its new form, it's a testament to the love between Mortal Instruments soulmates Clary and Jace:

He [Jace] made a sound like a choked laugh before he reached out and pulled her [Clary] into his arms. She was aware of Luke watching them from the window, but she shut her eyes resolutely and buried her face against Jace's shoulder. He smelled of salt and blood, and only when his mouth came close to her ear did she understand what he was saying, what he had been whispering before, and it was the simplest litany of all: her name, just her name.

It would be unfair to suggest that the Mortal Instruments series is a Harry Potter fanfic in the same way that Fifty Shades of Grey is a Twilight fanfic, because there’s that extra degree of separation. By the end of the Draco Trilogy, most of the main cast of Harry Potter characters were almost unrecognizable (e.g., Draco as a romantic hero rather than a cowardly racist bully), and Clare had thrown in plenty of her own worldbuilding—which was developed much further in the Mortal Instruments series. Does it really matter if City of Bones’ Clary and Jace resemble the Ginny and Draco of the Draco Trilogy? If anything, the Mortal Instruments books are a fanfic of her own fanfic, and thus have effectively become an entirely original work."

"She also had a cafepress where she sold merchandise for her Very Secret Diaries Lord of the Rings fanfic…using Tolkien’s characters. I hear his estate had to tell her to stop it at least twice before she finally closed up shop for good."

Yeah, I hate the dogpiling too. Reminds me of a clique of mean girls.
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[personal profile] dancing_clown 2014-01-28 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
That's not the same as plagiarizing other writers, though. It's just a hack job, in a couple senses of the phrase.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-28 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, she's also an extremely unpleasant person, apparently. Like Anne-Rice levels of butthurt and defensive, going after tumblrs and blogs who discuss her critically. That's just pathetic. You'd think she'd have bigger things on her plate at this point.

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2014-01-28 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
don't condone plagiarism

Well I sure hope you pirated the movie then, friendo.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-28 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
He has this face that is almost handsome to me, but not quite. I don't quite know how to describe it.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2014-01-28 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
He looks better when they aren't trying hard to make him look gaunt and creepy. Every single picture I see of him for CoB it looks like they are trying too hard to make him look like some anorexia case, and also hide his hair away. That hair does wonders for softening his face.
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[personal profile] comma_chameleon 2014-01-28 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
Haven't read the books but I watched the first movie out of curiousity, and all I came out caring about was Alec/Magnus being canon and mostly because I think Godfrey Gao is delicious looking. *_* /shallow

(Anonymous) 2014-01-28 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, you are bad and you should feel bad, OP.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-28 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
who in god's name is that voldermort looking man

(Anonymous) 2014-01-28 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
*voldemort

(Anonymous) 2014-01-28 05:16 am (UTC)(link)
That shiny thing looks a bit like fallopian tubes.