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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-28 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #2583 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I love Thranduil's fabulosity and pissiness and you're right about why. Hooray for elves with personality!
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[personal profile] silverr 2014-01-29 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Seconded.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Not being emotionless is a plus, I guess, but I'm still sick of PJ doing yet again the 'Elves-(or-Ents)-don't-give-a-shit-about-anyone-else-and-have-to-be-coaxed/persuaded-into-finally-acting' thing. It bugged me a lot more with LotR's 'Men-are-weak'-Elrond but still. Pfft.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
i hated that thranduil was portrayed as being unreasonable in the films because i think his point was very valid. he's the king. he had his own race to protect and sending them all off on a suicide mission wasn't something he was prepared to do.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
See, I agree with this-- to a point. Should Thranduil have risked his people on a suicide mission? Hell no, those aren't the actions of a good king.

Should he have immediately gone into crisis mode-- cleared out 3+ banquet rooms to house refugees, gotten his healers' asses in gear, sent envoys to let the dwarves know "hey we have shelter, healing, and food for you guys", sent his own soldiers into guarding/dwarf herding mode and begun sending his people deeper into the underground reaches of the bunkered-down palace for their own protection should Smaug decide he also wanted Thranduil's shinies? Absolutely.

Not only would it have gotten him the goodwill of just about anybody who noticed that, mmmmmm PR, it would have made the dwarves way more likely to go "and when we get our mountain back you can have your box of white shinies. You can have a CHEST of white shinies".

So, not unreasonable, but still not making the best decisions (based on available information. For all I know it'd been a bad year for Mirkwood and he couldn't have supported the dwarves).

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
OP - when I say I have issues with Thranduil's characterisation, I generally mean "I blank out huge parts of his characterisation, but I don't have to retcon every second of his screentime like I do Elrond's so there's a plus". :P But I do think he's more in-line with the spirit of Tolkien's Elves, particularly the Elves of The Silmarillion, than any other Elf that Peter Jackson has given us.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I like him because his character gives me a glimpse of how Elu Thingol would have been portrayed on the big screen. Not the campy fabulousity bit, but... tall and silver-haired? Check. Isolationist? Check. Obsessed with bling to the exclusion of good sense? Check. Huge asshole? Check.

To be honest the canon Thranduil has never been a very clearly definied character to me, and years of fanon hasn't helped matters, so I'm pretty open to radical interpretations.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2014-01-29 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
You have a huge point there about Thingol. I like your thoughts and agree with them, especially since I RP two out of three of the Silmarils, and have plenty of headcanon for the third (Beren and Luthien's one) that is not exactly nice about Thingol.