[ SECRET POST #2583 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2583 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Oh no, I'm not assuming Doyle intended it, but then again no one gives a shit what Doyle intended. :P Doyle is, as far as Holmes fans are concerned while they're doing the whole "Holmes was a real person!" shtick, Watson's super-lazy editor. :D

What I meant was that Holmes directly contradicts his rubbish brain attic remark later on when he frequently demonstrates that random knowledge IS helpful -- for example, his unfamiliarity with theology flummoxed him on Mrs. Barclay's "David!" comments, which he explicitly admits was the cause of his inability to figure out the solution at the end of The Crooked Man. Meanwhile, knowing an American slang phrase like "jumping a claim" clued him into the situation of Hatty Doran in The Noble Bachelor. All evidence that shows that the brain attic thing does not at all come in handy in detective work, no matter how "confident" he was about this idea when he was just starting out. And then there's this passage from The Valley Of Fear:

"I don’t doubt it, Mr. Holmes; but that is no business of ours."

"Is it not? Is it not? Breadth of view, my dear Mr. Mac, is one of the essentials of our profession. The interplay of ideas and the oblique uses of knowledge are often of extraordinary interest."

Which is quite a change from "what does it matter to me and my work?" So I say that, from the evidence, he must have changed his mind.

I...didn't mean to sound snotty? There's a thing in SH fandom called "the Great Game", where we argue about "what really happened" in a faux-super-serious way, which is just an act, but it's one that we keep up as doggedly as Stephen Colbert keeps up his nutty conservative persona. I sometimes forget that not everyone plays it. Apologies.

But regardless: these days, Sherlock and John are generally considered to be the BBC characters specifically, who have nothing factually to with the canon characters because they are from a modern AU.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Well done for your rational and polite response, but you have no need to apologise to this person - who clearly isn't interested in anything but the faux modern version and themselves is being snotty and overreacting to anyone who knows anything else.

[truxillogical]

who clearly isn't interested in anything but the faux modern version

Lol, no. But good job being a smug dickmunch. I'm sure you're the same anon from down below, but I'll clarify here--I like the books. I've seen the new show, and it's alright and fun enough for what it is (and between that and the RDJ thing, I like finally seeing John played as less of a chubby bumbler), but when I think Sherlock Holmes, I think the books. I mean, seven hells, I would think you could "deduce" that I was talking about the books by the way I...I dunno, actually talked about the books, and not the BBC show.

Seriously, is the Sherlock Holmes fandom exactly this stuck on themselves and their superiority of medium or something, because if so I'm thinking I missed exactly nothing by never participating.

[(Anonymous)]

'Cept you called them John and Sherlock and you have no manners. Don't sound like a canon fan at all. Sound like a wannabee.

[(Anonymous)]

Dude, I'm not the one calling people "wannabee." Seriously, if showing "manners" is how you define a canon fan (um...what on earth does that have to do with fandom at all?), you're not doing to well yourself buddy.

Their names are John Watson and Sherlock Holmes. I'm terribly sorry that I never felt the need to go play with the other canon fans online to learn that there is ONE TRUE WAY to refer to them (that according so some canon fans, judging from this, only became so hotly contested after the BBC incident).

But dude, fine, you're calling folks "wannabee" because they don't like the canon the way you like canon. I think you outted yourself as a douchetroll.

Or at the very least, an incredibly good reason for people to avoid the old school Sherlock Holmes fandom. I'm not a teenager or even a college student anymore. I am so done with groups that play games about judging who is "worthy" enough to be a "true fan." I read the books, I like the books, I'm pretty sure, dickmunch, that that's all that is required to Being a Fan. Oy.